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Tips for enjoying action movies?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:14 pm
I want to be able to enjoy action movies. I really do, but I've gotten to the point where I hate just about any move that has a significant amount of shooting/guns/explosions/violence.
I hated Sicario
I hated Mad Max
They bored me. And yet I see so many good reviews from people. And Im just like, W.T.F. how do I get to enjoying them? I never watch superhero movies anymore. Its the same ridiculous film over and over.
I cant stand the whole unlimited guns/unlimited ammo concept all these movies have. I also cant stand the unlimited health concept they have as well, especially for superhero movies. People make fun of fast and furious franchise, but to me, they are on the same level as all these other films, they are all ridiculous.
Maybe its because I have always been a reader. I always loved reading books. I didnt need to have crazy chaotic scenes painted out for me. I enjoyed adventure/mystery/drama/thriller/horror, etc. I want to be able to understand a character, feel their feels. I want to be able to forget Im watching a movie and feel like Im an observer of a real world. I like a deep plot, dialogue, relationships between characters. Subtle glances, words with deeper meanings, body language that speaks volumes!
But as soon as I start getting into a plot of an action movie BOOOM, POW POW POW, gunshots, explosions, dozens of enemies dying while the hero remains unscathed with limitless ability to avoid death. The camera changes back and both quickly, short, quick shots. You cant even really tell whats going on, you just know that the hero was in trouble, and then he was ok. OH shite but now hes in trouble, oh my god want an incredible shot and now hes ok. I feel like I miss half the movie with the speed of the scenes.
And you know, that would all be ok, it really would, if CGI and editing didnt make it damn near impossible for anything to not be edited in. So you cant even really appreciate that as much anymore.
Look, I know Ive been ranting a lot, and action fans, dont take it personally. This is just me explaining where Im coming from in the hopes that YOU can diagnose me. Give me the medicine i need, the secret formula, to be able to finally enjoy action films. Suspend reality? I swear, i swear I try. But all I can think to myself is "wtf this is too much, this is too overwhleming, way too many things going on here, WTF WHY ARENT THEY SHOOTING HIM RIGHT NOW, HES A SITTING DUCK, OMG THIS IS SO STUPID". I swear i try to forget logic and reason, but damn it is hard. TEACH ME, how can i do it??
After watching an action movie, i just always think "wow that was a waste of my time". I dont want it to be like that. I want to enjoy it. I know mad max was good, i really do, because it was really good for an action film. But I still disliked it
I hated Sicario
I hated Mad Max
They bored me. And yet I see so many good reviews from people. And Im just like, W.T.F. how do I get to enjoying them? I never watch superhero movies anymore. Its the same ridiculous film over and over.
I cant stand the whole unlimited guns/unlimited ammo concept all these movies have. I also cant stand the unlimited health concept they have as well, especially for superhero movies. People make fun of fast and furious franchise, but to me, they are on the same level as all these other films, they are all ridiculous.
Maybe its because I have always been a reader. I always loved reading books. I didnt need to have crazy chaotic scenes painted out for me. I enjoyed adventure/mystery/drama/thriller/horror, etc. I want to be able to understand a character, feel their feels. I want to be able to forget Im watching a movie and feel like Im an observer of a real world. I like a deep plot, dialogue, relationships between characters. Subtle glances, words with deeper meanings, body language that speaks volumes!
But as soon as I start getting into a plot of an action movie BOOOM, POW POW POW, gunshots, explosions, dozens of enemies dying while the hero remains unscathed with limitless ability to avoid death. The camera changes back and both quickly, short, quick shots. You cant even really tell whats going on, you just know that the hero was in trouble, and then he was ok. OH shite but now hes in trouble, oh my god want an incredible shot and now hes ok. I feel like I miss half the movie with the speed of the scenes.
And you know, that would all be ok, it really would, if CGI and editing didnt make it damn near impossible for anything to not be edited in. So you cant even really appreciate that as much anymore.
Look, I know Ive been ranting a lot, and action fans, dont take it personally. This is just me explaining where Im coming from in the hopes that YOU can diagnose me. Give me the medicine i need, the secret formula, to be able to finally enjoy action films. Suspend reality? I swear, i swear I try. But all I can think to myself is "wtf this is too much, this is too overwhleming, way too many things going on here, WTF WHY ARENT THEY SHOOTING HIM RIGHT NOW, HES A SITTING DUCK, OMG THIS IS SO STUPID". I swear i try to forget logic and reason, but damn it is hard. TEACH ME, how can i do it??
After watching an action movie, i just always think "wow that was a waste of my time". I dont want it to be like that. I want to enjoy it. I know mad max was good, i really do, because it was really good for an action film. But I still disliked it
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 11:16 pm
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:23 pm to DollaChoppa
I am exactly like you. I will actually fall asleep if a movie has too much action.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:24 pm to DollaChoppa
Get high or watch John Wick repeatedly. Either will do
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:27 pm to DollaChoppa
Sicario is much more of a suspense thriller than "action" movie. It's not Con Air or some dumb arse Michael Bay movie. If you think it is just some bang bang shoot em up action movie you must not have been paying attention.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:27 pm to UncleBlazer
Hm thats a thought. What about alcohol? Take a shot/drink a beer during every major action scene? Ill become like pavlovs dog. Ill learn to associate action scenes with something I enjoy. And then the drunker i get the more entertaining itll be.
This isnt bad advice. But other sober alternatives would also be good.
I'll try the John Wick thing. I guess it will "break" me?
This isnt bad advice. But other sober alternatives would also be good.
I'll try the John Wick thing. I guess it will "break" me?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:30 pm to DollaChoppa
im very critical of action movies, but mad max, the raid, and the raid 2 are some of the best i've seen.
the tropes that you don't like are just the nature of the genre. i come from a more literary background as well, and I basically came to terms with the genre and trained myself to enjoy movies that were well-done. it's all you can really ask for.
the tropes that you don't like are just the nature of the genre. i come from a more literary background as well, and I basically came to terms with the genre and trained myself to enjoy movies that were well-done. it's all you can really ask for.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:30 pm to Fenwick86
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Sicario is much more of a suspense thriller than "action" movie. It's not Con Air or some dumb arse Michael Bay movie. If you think it is just some bang bang shoot em up action movie you must not have been paying attention.
Look, this thread really isnt for this discussion, but I found the film to have a bunch of really dumb scenes of pointless violence and explosions.
Omg a trap door, lets pull on this lock and jiggle it. There are corpses all in the walls of this house, but lets just get some boltcutters on this trap door and not worry about whats in. BOOM RANDOM EXPLOSION
Lets drive up to a house with a noise af vehicle that suddenly becomes quiet until it smashes through the wall.
Let's have this coerce an enemy to drive a car onto his cartel's headquarters and not have people notice he is dead even though it would be suspicious as f and you can see the guy is dead from in front of the car.
Lets just shoot dozens of dudes but its undetected cuz he shoots really fast and has a silencer. He is basically the superhero of this action film. Every plan he has goes perfectly and you have to suspend reality.
But once again, the thread isnt about critiquing sicario. But I am trying to explain the qualities of movies that turn me off.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:30 pm to DollaChoppa
Sicario was not what I would call am action movie.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:32 pm to DollaChoppa
There is no hope for you
Just put Perks of being a Wallflower on repeat and be happy
Just put Perks of being a Wallflower on repeat and be happy
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:32 pm to Carson123987
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are just the nature of the genre.
Right. Exactly why after Mad max I got so upset. I thought to myself, this is a good action movie, but I still disliked it. Hence, my desperation in starting this thread, begging for help.
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basically came to terms with the genre and trained myself to enjoy movies that were well-done. it's all you can really ask for.
Forgive me. I will continue to try. I wont give up. I will try harder, I swear. Ill try until I enjoy them.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:34 pm to SG_Geaux
Right right it was a thriller about illegal drugs with a bunch of lame action/conflict scenes that sunk the move from good to meh for me. Once again, not the point. Dont call sicario action, whatever, it doesnt matter. Dont call any of the movies action if you want to. The point is the scenes, the action scenes.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:36 pm to DollaChoppa
It's the best action movie I've seen in years. I had so much fun watching it and I'm sort of like you in that action isn't my thing either.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:40 pm to DollaChoppa
Yea, I remembered from the first time you posted it, it was not worth you posting it again here.
He wasn't dead, he was bleeding then presumably died after he stopped the car
What would you know about reality in this scenario? Or you in FBI or part of some secret government special operations group that fight drug cartels?
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Let's have this coerce an enemy to drive a car onto his cartel's headquarters and not have people notice he is dead even though it would be suspicious as f and you can see the guy is dead from in front of the car
He wasn't dead, he was bleeding then presumably died after he stopped the car
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Lets just shoot dozens of dudes but its undetected cuz he shoots really fast and has a silencer. He is basically the superhero of this action film. Every plan he has goes perfectly and you have to suspend reality.
What would you know about reality in this scenario? Or you in FBI or part of some secret government special operations group that fight drug cartels?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:43 pm to Fenwick86
Ok, this is good stuff. Youre teaching me how to better suspend my reality and defy logic. If I play devil's advocate against my logic, I can see this working.
Thank you!
This was kinda mean though and hurt my feelings
Thank you!
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Yea, I remembered from the first time you posted it, it was not worth you posting it again here.
This was kinda mean though and hurt my feelings
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:56 pm to DollaChoppa
That's a lot of text. Just don't watch them. You don't have to like them.
ETA: you suspend disbelief with every movie. Period.
Perks of Being a Wallflower: the chances of a kid who was molested by his aunt becoming friends with a group of older kids in high school, one of whom is gay, and ultimately working out his emotions is almost absurd. But you go along with it because you want to.
Inside Out: lots of suspension of reality here. Emotions are personified and there's a fricking memory bank in your head represented by, basically, marbles. But you don't care, because you want to find out how Joy can solve the problems of moving.
John Wick: a super-assassin who found love and quit the profession is drawn back in when his wife dies and her memory is killed by his former boss' son. He runs out of bullets and gets hurt and the action scenes are tight, but you have to suspend your disbelief. He's the hero. He'll either survive or find redemption, but the stakes have to be high enough and the barriers to his success have to be big enough to make the audience invest. This is where you appear to begin to find it hard to suspend disbelief. But why? Who gives a damn if it couldn't happen in reality? Can it happen in the context of the story? That's all that matters.
So you need to do two things with every movie, and every story, particularly since you claim to know about literature: suspend your disbelief as to the world and understand that, unless you're reading a tragedy, the hero will succeed, no matter the obstacles. That's very nearly every story arc ever made because the audience doesn't put up with nothing being resolved. Even tragedies resolve the plot, even if it takes the death of the entire cast to do it.
Action movies are no different than SciFi, horror, fantasy, romance, comedies... You name it. The only movies you don't have to suspend disbelief for are documentaries.
You should know this and because you should, this thread comes off as you trying to be self-important and haughty, as if you are above the basic entertainment of the masses (i.e. action films).
ETA: you suspend disbelief with every movie. Period.
Perks of Being a Wallflower: the chances of a kid who was molested by his aunt becoming friends with a group of older kids in high school, one of whom is gay, and ultimately working out his emotions is almost absurd. But you go along with it because you want to.
Inside Out: lots of suspension of reality here. Emotions are personified and there's a fricking memory bank in your head represented by, basically, marbles. But you don't care, because you want to find out how Joy can solve the problems of moving.
John Wick: a super-assassin who found love and quit the profession is drawn back in when his wife dies and her memory is killed by his former boss' son. He runs out of bullets and gets hurt and the action scenes are tight, but you have to suspend your disbelief. He's the hero. He'll either survive or find redemption, but the stakes have to be high enough and the barriers to his success have to be big enough to make the audience invest. This is where you appear to begin to find it hard to suspend disbelief. But why? Who gives a damn if it couldn't happen in reality? Can it happen in the context of the story? That's all that matters.
So you need to do two things with every movie, and every story, particularly since you claim to know about literature: suspend your disbelief as to the world and understand that, unless you're reading a tragedy, the hero will succeed, no matter the obstacles. That's very nearly every story arc ever made because the audience doesn't put up with nothing being resolved. Even tragedies resolve the plot, even if it takes the death of the entire cast to do it.
Action movies are no different than SciFi, horror, fantasy, romance, comedies... You name it. The only movies you don't have to suspend disbelief for are documentaries.
You should know this and because you should, this thread comes off as you trying to be self-important and haughty, as if you are above the basic entertainment of the masses (i.e. action films).
This post was edited on 1/16/16 at 12:29 am
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:33 am to DollaChoppa
My suggestion to you is, don't watch anymore action movies.
The older I get, the less patience I have for goofy fighting, endless car chases, and shootouts. Just sick of them. So I avoid those type movies. It's easy to do.
The older I get, the less patience I have for goofy fighting, endless car chases, and shootouts. Just sick of them. So I avoid those type movies. It's easy to do.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:57 am to DollaChoppa
Your tastes are changing. Happens all the time.
I hate them for the most part nowadays because most have the same plot and structure and consequences. Most have no risks. But occasionally moves like Mad Max make me care again and give me hope in the genre. But most that come out aren't that great as a whole.
I hate them for the most part nowadays because most have the same plot and structure and consequences. Most have no risks. But occasionally moves like Mad Max make me care again and give me hope in the genre. But most that come out aren't that great as a whole.
This post was edited on 1/16/16 at 1:04 am
Posted on 1/16/16 at 1:03 am to DollaChoppa
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I hated Sicario
Sicario should not be in this discussion of "action movies". Not even close really. It was fantastic and I really don't understand how those scenes you mentioned ruined it for you. Those scenes don't even stand out to me when I think about the movie as a whole except for the ending with del toro part. And that didn't seem unrealistic to me
However, I'm generally on the same page as you with not liking the over the top action/popcorn flicks. Just not my type of movie really. They tend to all be very similar in plot and outcome/ending
This post was edited on 1/16/16 at 1:07 am
Posted on 1/16/16 at 3:18 am to DollaChoppa
I feel your pain when I watch a action movie with a female action character. Hollywood will take a 110 pound beautiful woman with no scare or scab on her body yet she can beat the hell out of 15 250 pound badass rough and ruthless men. It dosent make much sense but let me try to explain this the best way I can.
It's a fricking movie it's not real. Take it for what it is, have fun try to let things that would bother you in real life disappear. Use your imagination.
It's a fricking movie it's not real. Take it for what it is, have fun try to let things that would bother you in real life disappear. Use your imagination.
This post was edited on 1/16/16 at 3:24 am
Posted on 1/16/16 at 5:22 am to DollaChoppa
I hate car chases and long Jackie Chan style fight scenes
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