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re: The West Wing is the GOAT.

Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26175 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:02 pm to
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I love the West Wing and The Newsroom, but I can see where this can be an issue. I catch myself sometimes cringing at some dialogue upon rewatches.

I feel like a large majority (obviously not all, the dialogue is a solid complaint IMO) of the hate for The West Wing and Newsroom type shows are largely because people think it pushes a liberal agenda though.


Watched both. Loved The West Wing and hated The Newsroom.

The West Wing was didn't feel like liberal propaganda. It was a group of like-able people doing what they thought was best for the country. Somewhat of what an idealist view of the white house is.

The Newsroom had zero like-able people and was so over the top with the leftist agenda that I couldn't get past it. Usually that kind of thing doesn't bother me but The Newsroom was just ridiculous to me.
Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
16878 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 5:23 pm to
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As is all of Sorkin's overrated fluff.


I watched the 1st episode of sportsnight. There were a lot of constant talk and interrupting. But none of the chit chat was about sports. My hatred for Sorkin grew from there. Now I found out who was behind the west wing, that explains it all.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79237 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 7:37 pm to
Most people who don't like it don't like the subject matter.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:38 am to
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The West Wing was didn't feel like liberal propaganda. It was a group of like-able people doing what they thought was best for the country. Somewhat of what an idealist view of the white house is.

The Newsroom had zero like-able people and was so over the top with the leftist agenda that I couldn't get past it. Usually that kind of thing doesn't bother me but The Newsroom was just ridiculous to me.


This pretty much nails it. Also, most of the West Wing Republicans aren't evil, they are the loyal opposition. Sorkin doesn't stack the deck against the conservatives like he does in the Newsroom. He makes them competent, patriotic, and in some cases, RIGHT even when told from the point of view of the protagonists. that never happens on the Newsroom.

The West Wing works because Toby is a grump who loves The People but hates actual people and Josh is a narcissist who cares more about winning than good policy at times. The heroes of Newsroom are practically saints, bestowing us with their divine knowledge. It's hectoring, unrelatable, and plain doesn't work.

Simply put, West Wing is about real people.
Posted by MardiGrasRazorback
Shreveport, LA
Member since Feb 2011
448 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:06 am to
I finished my first watch last month, and my first instinct was to turn around and watch the whole thing again. It is easily one of my top 3 favorite shows now, and I have no idea how I missed it when it was on network.

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158764 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 10:12 am to
not true...I made it through about a season and a half on Netflix, just didn't really get sucked in. I didn't particularly care about any of the story lines but I never felt like I was being preached to or it was overly political.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10969 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:31 am to
I'm liberal as frick, and I despise Sorkin's shows.
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