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re: The Official DragonBall Thread....est 2012

Posted on 7/17/19 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 6:53 pm to
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Abridged did it better.

Vegeta YES!


When cell shows up:

Cell: WANNA SEE ME EAT THIS GUY!?!

Vegeta: what's that power? Is it me? I'll freaking kill me!
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 6:55 pm
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16930 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:36 pm to
anyone else DVR'ing the saturday runs of Super?

been loving it.
Posted by Knownothing
Member since Jul 2019
155 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

Cell: WANNA SEE ME EAT THIS GUY!?! Vegeta: what's that power? Is it me? I'll freaking kill


Team 3 star?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51702 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 7:59 pm to
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anyone else DVR'ing the saturday runs of Super?

been loving it.
yep it's been surpassing my expectations.

Also I just started watching Dragon Ball and while it's different it's fantastic.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61377 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 8:17 pm to
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Also I just started watching Dragon Ball and while it's different it's fantastic.



Dragon ball was surprisingly entertaining. I didnt think I would like it as much as I did.

I think super for the most part tries to bring back the dragon ball atmosphere, but they go too far by dumbing down Goku.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16930 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:26 pm to
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but they go too far by dumbing down Goku.


yes, it's annoying

i think Z is still the gold standard.
Super does a good job of being entertaining. but it's really gone off the rails from Z.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67214 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:35 pm to
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I think super for the most part tries to bring back the dragon ball atmosphere, but they go too far by dumbing down Goku.


Goku is extra stupid in Abridged, and it's pretty much the greatest thing ever.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61377 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:51 pm to
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Goku is extra stupid in Abridged, and it's pretty much the greatest thing ever.




Dont get me wrong, it works great in Dragon ball and is quite hilarious, but after seeing how Goku evolved in Z it just doesnt work for me. I'm not a fan of Goku in super, but I see that Toriyama wanted to inject comedy back into it. It's strange how different each series has been despite being the same story line.

Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28895 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:02 pm to
Goku is a genius at combat in DB and DBZ. Even in Super he shows that he is a genius in combat at times. He deciphered hits timeskip pretty easily

He has always been dumb at other things tho
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28895 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:11 pm to
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Power levels have been bullshite for a very long time



Question is, when did it start?


Hmm...Frieza was the strongest person in the universe by a good margin...or so we thought.

At 120,000,000

Dr. Gero was able to create 4 beings that could destroy Frieza pretty easily...and then Cell who had a power level double that of Frieza's before he ate a single human

In 3 years of training for the androids:
Yamcha was as strong as base form Goku on Namek
Krillin, Tien, and Gohan were stronger than Goku on Namek
Piccolo was as strong as Frieza before fusing with Kami

Tien had an attack that was 10 times stronger than Frieza

so yeah, once Frieza died...power levels were useless
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 11:13 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:15 pm to
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At 120,000,000

No. Base was like 516,000

4,000,000 was final form in show. Manga might be different.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28895 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:28 am to
where do you get 4,000,000?

Goku was at 3,000,000 and using Kaoiken x10 and not even doing any damage
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 2:56 am to
It was on some sheet back in the day. I've seen both PLs. One came from the manga and one from a vhs collection.

This is in the 90s on the old PlanetNamek website. If you remember that webring and website.

Edt: I understand your point though. But I also never accepted that crazy range. One reason being is I remember when the English sites started posting those numbers in the early 2000s. The maths make sense but it doesn't make any sense on a scale even with some type of DR (diminishing returns) impacting power output at a certain point.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 5:15 am
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Goku is a genius at combat in DB and DBZ.


In the Japanese version, like if you watch it subbed instead lg dubbed, he's pretty much a giant man child autistic fighter. Someone who never progressed past the age of his head injury.

The American dub made him a much more mature person and he has an evolved character arc both as a fighter and as a person.

It leaves an American only viewer confused.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

It was on some sheet back in the day. I've seen both PLs. One came from the manga and one from a vhs collection.

This is in the 90s on the old PlanetNamek website. If you remember that webring and website.

Edt: I understand your point though. But I also never accepted that crazy range. One reason being is I remember when the English sites started posting those numbers in the early 2000s. The maths make sense but it doesn't make any sense on a scale even with some type of DR (diminishing returns) impacting power output at a certain point.

Per the Daizenshuu, Freeza's final form was 120 million.
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
Franklinton, LA
Member since Aug 2011
7958 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Byron Bojangles III

quote:

Also I just started watching Dragon Ball


Posted by LurkerTooLong
Lakeview, NOLA
Member since Aug 2016
1861 posts
Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:31 pm to
Just a heads up the new Dragonball Heroes ep 14 aired. Kind of an interesting filler till the new season starts.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:53 pm to
Saw a tag today that said SSBGOKU. What would the B stand for?
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
5411 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 8:59 pm to
Super saiyan blue, i suppose
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15368 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:42 pm to
Im a huge DB and DBZ fan, but I am just just now started getting into Super. A friend of mine convinced me to watch all of Super becuase it is supposed to be the greatest thing ever. I was hesitant, because I was content with being done with the series, but I gave in.

I must say, i have been fairly disappointed so far. Im only on episode 44, but it has just been lackluster so far. While it was a fun fight and ode to the past, Frieza coming back and basically becoming 1 billion times stronger in a matter of a couple of months felt extremely forced and quite honestly weak writing. Not to mention, what was once my favorite character, Gohan got the GT treatment and is nothing more than an after thought.

For people who have already finished the series (or atleast all the way caught up) does the series get better. Is it worth it to continue watching?
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