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The Most influential Horror movie of its time?

Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:11 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:11 pm
Was watching the great Doc, Story of Film...and they said..."Ringu, the most influential horror movie of its time."

It came out in 1998...so they are presupposing Ringu was the most influential horror movie the next decade...2000-2010 and maybe before.

There was a Japan-horror invasion...but is The Ring, really it for 2000-2010?

Scream is the 90's
Nightmare is the 80's
Halloween is the 70's

Combining all eras...what is the most influential horror of all time for all eras?

Did Japan horror resurrect American horror?
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 5:12 pm
Posted by tzimme4
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:16 pm to
Hilary's America is up there.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:17 pm to
Idk if The Ring (Ringu) was the first one to do it, but how many horror characters have we seen are women / girls, long black hair, and face covered since the Ring came out.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

Did Japan horror resurrect American horror?

No but it produced a lot of shitty remakes.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:17 pm to
I'm not sure about those. The 70s had The Exorcist and The Omen. The 80s had Friday the 13th and a lot of Stephen King.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:22 pm to
Difficult to separate by decades like that.

Rosemary's Baby begat The Exorcist and The Omen, even though it was in a previous decade.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:31 pm to
Scream is the 90's --No, Ring, Ringu, Seven, Silence Of The Lambs.
Nightmare is the 80's--No, The Shining, The Thing, Poltergeist, American Werewolf In London, Near Dark.
Halloween might be "influential" because it ushered in a bunch of copy cat stuff but not the best by any stretch and Exorcist, Don't Look Now, and Alien were really more "influential" especially Alien.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:34 pm to
Were there any franchise type horror movies before Friday the 13th? I'm not just talking cheap sequels. I mean creating an iconic villain like Jason. Hockey mask. You immediatley think one character. Possibly Halloween and Michael Myers but I'd give the edge to the 13th bc it really created the perfect slasher type horror. You could be in the woods and just make the sound, "che,che,che, ah, ah,ah" and people still freak out.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 5:39 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:54 pm to
Psycho is #1
Halloween is #2

A case can be made for Frankenstein/Bride of Frankenstein as well.

I would argue with Nosferatu.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:57 pm to
Psycho is the grandfather of all slasher films so I have to say it's the most influential horror movie of its time.

Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:02 pm to
I'd argue Dracula 1931. This was the first of the big Universal horror pictures. The Frankenstein and Wolfman/werewolf franchises grew out of the success of the Lugosi movie.
I know some would say Nosferatu but Lugosi's Dracula had a much larger mass appeal. His interpretation of the vampire as the romantic, refined killer reverberates to this day.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:03 pm to
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Psycho is the grandfather of all slasher films


Probably right. But that's a sub-genre of horror.

There was M, etc...but that isn't modern horror.

Obviously Halloween and Friday are the most copied.

While I think Nightmare on Elm Street defined the 80's - and how horror can go beyond "real time slasher" - it was the precursor to Japan horror to a degree. Slasher ghosts.

There's no doubt that Psycho, Halloween, Friday...are up there.

But I guess, what I am asking is what the doc seemed to imply...that the Ring redefined horror for its time.

I think Nightmare redefined horror from Pyscho, Halloween, Friday and that Scream redefined it again.

I know people sort of hate Blair Witch to a degree...but wasn't that more influential than The Ring?
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

I'd argue Dracula 1931. This was the first of the big Universal horror pictures. The Frankenstein and Wolfman/werewolf franchises grew out of the success of the Lugosi movie.
I know some would say Nosferatu but Lugosi's Dracula had a much larger mass appeal. His interpretation of the vampire as the romantic, refined killer reverberates to this day.



Good points.

That's why I view these as Tiers and not in some forced numerical order. Drac is certainly in that discussion as well. There's a good handful of films that are.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:05 pm to
Edit: actually my answer is Nosferatu
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 6:07 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:17 pm to
If you classify King Kong as a horror pic, it deserves consideration. The "mega-monster" movies (especially all the post-war "nuclear" monster movies) could be traced to Kong.

Plus, the technical innovations of the use of miniatures and stop-motion pushed the boundaries of filmmaking.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Edit: actually my answer is Nosferatu


But isn't that fantasy horror?

Which really didn't come back huge until Freddy.

Pyscho, Halloween, Friday has its genesis in Fritz Lang's M. A real life killer.

I guess it asks the question, what is horror?

Just bothered me that The Ring was the definition of the last 15 years.

I guess its a question of Japan horror vs. found footage? I am no fan of found footage but I think it had a bigger impact.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 6:23 pm
Posted by TechBullDawg
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:30 pm to


Leatherface says hi
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:31 pm to
Night of the Living Dead 1968

Look what the living dead cannibal corpse market has grown to today.
Posted by Sevendust912
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:35 pm to
The Omen and Silence of the Lambs for me
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:58 pm to
Psycho and Silence of the Lambs seem like good answers for how broadly watched and admired they were for their eras.

My perception is that Night of the Living Dead opened up the cult midnight horror movie market. Very important, but a smaller and more devoted sub genre.

How many others saw the recent "Why Horror?" documentary?
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