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The end of skyfall was odd *** spoiler ***

Posted on 11/10/12 at 9:05 am
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 9:05 am
So he kidnaps M so he can face off against 50 Mercs with assault rifles and an attack chopper, while his only defense is a 12 gauge crack barrell and some propane tanks.

M dies (of course) in the ensuing gun fight and nothing happens to him?

The whole flee to ireland plan was contrived just so we can see his childhood home?

I really really liked the movie up until this point. Am I missing something? If not that was a pretty crappy way to end a pretty good movie.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66414 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 9:15 am to
The movie went on a downward spiral after Silva's capture
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 9:31 am to
quote:

So he kidnaps M so he can face off against 50 Mercs with assault rifles and an attack chopper, while his only defense is a 12 gauge crack barrell and some propane tanks.



The whole plan was to use M as bait to lure the villain out into the middle of nowhere, away from his comfort zone, so that Bond could take him and his organization out. The plan didn't go as planned, however, as Bond hoped to have a fully stocked room of guns inside his childhood mansion. They were all sold and therefore Bond had to go to plan B.

I agree it was still something of a weak third act but it's a Bond film and, compared to a lot of the outrageous third acts we have gotten in this franchise, this one was actually really tame.

Posted by UncleLogger
Freetown
Member since Jan 2008
2699 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 9:54 am to
First of all Scotland =/= Ireland.

Secondly, I thought it was pretty clear what the plan was. Get the tech savvy bad guy out of his comfort zone; in the sticks.

I thought the ending was the best part of the movie.
Posted by LSUTil_iDie
Lawrenceville, GA
Member since Jan 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:06 am to
quote:

First of all Scotland =/= Ireland.

Secondly, I thought it was pretty clear what the plan was. Get the tech savvy bad guy out of his comfort zone; in the sticks.

I thought the ending was the best part of the movie.




This
Posted by NavyLSUAlum
Portland Oregon
Member since Oct 2005
749 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:32 am to
The problem with the ending was the bad guy won. All he really wanted to do was kill "M" and himself. Well guess what, he accomplished both. The mission ended in failure.

On a side note. What about the people that bought the house. "Hey honey let's go check out our new cool mansion out in the sticks. Wait WTF!
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:45 am to
I agree, those people must have pissed their place had been nuked.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36610 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 10:51 am to
Was any else sad that bond didn't get to eat his mac'n cheese after he set up the house?





Posted by You will Artichokes
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 12:47 pm to
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Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/10/12 at 1:13 pm to
quote:


The whole plan was to use M as bait to lure the villain out into the middle of nowhere, away from his comfort zone, so that Bond could take him and his organization out. The plan didn't go as planned, however, as Bond hoped to have a fully stocked room of guns inside his childhood mansion. They were all sold and therefore Bond had to go to plan B.

Posted by wavebreaker
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
467 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 1:16 pm to
Very DARK KNIGHT influenced (especially the antagonist).

How did Bond survive the opening 'kill'? No explanation given of that.

Head of MI6 testifying and the security consists of little more than you'd see a a county courthouse? Open to the public as well.

Was okay but doubt I'd watch it again. Disappointed in the quality post CASINO ROYALE, but this did beat the sucky QOS.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103060 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 1:30 pm to
the whole "bad guy wins" crap is so played out and it means your movie sucks.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10468 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

The end of skyfall


Home Alone 6: Skyfall.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36417 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

The problem with the ending was the bad guy won. All he really wanted to do was kill "M" and himself. Well guess what, he accomplished both. The mission ended in failure.



No he didnt. He didnt get the satisfaction of seeing M die. To his knowledge right before Bond off'd him, M survived. As for M dying, the movie made it pretty clear she had a death wish/was ready to die..she felt the guilt of her job's consequences and her husband, it was noted, had passed away.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23182 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

The whole plan was to use M as bait to lure the villain out into the middle of nowhere, away from his comfort zone, so that Bond could take him and his organization out. The plan didn't go as planned, however, as Bond hoped to have a fully stocked room of guns inside his childhood mansion. They were all sold and therefore Bond had to go to plan B.


Yes I understand the "plan" my point is that it was awfully asinine and resulted in the head of MI6 being murdered. An outcome for which the principal agent acting on his own suffered no consequence.

My question is was this contrived just so we can see the house he grew up in? Or was it just a ridiculous bit of poor writing.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 2:45 pm to
Another part I got stuck on was the new Q when attempting to hack into the bad guy's computer, needed it to be connected to the MI-6 network? WTF? Doesn't computer forensics 101 mandate that there is ALWAYS the possibility of the bad guy's computer containing harmful viruses that can affect a network?

The bad guy's plan of being captured by Bond depended on knowing that his malware would successfully infect the network?

Also, what was the necessity of the character names Kincade at the end? He had speaking parts, yet his role was inconsequential. If you take him out of the story, M could retreat without his assistance?

The role would have been more functional if Sean Connery had been cast in the part of Kincade.
Posted by NavyLSUAlum
Portland Oregon
Member since Oct 2005
749 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 3:18 pm to
Yes he did. Did you even watch the movie? His last wish was that they would die together. So no he never would have seen her die or had the satisfaction. I never thought I would need to explain that to anyone after they made a huge deal of him wanting them to die together. So she died a minute later. His actions caused her to die within an extremely short period of time of his, which is what he wanted, so he won. Are you claiming a Moral victory that she wanted to die. Please...that's patently ridiculous.
Posted by uglycasanova7
Member since Feb 2011
1284 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Home Alone 6: Skyfall.


I told Mrs. Ugly he was "home-aloneing" the house during the movie.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18538 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 5:09 pm to
was Silva supposed to be a homo?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 11/10/12 at 9:25 pm to
I personally would have left M alive and have her retire at the end of the film. She was already on her way out the door anyway.
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