re: Temptation Island S3 Discussion Thread

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I find it fascinating how polarizing Chelsea/Tom are to folks. Where some on here believe she's being hypocritical, I see it a matter of Tom gambled and lost when it came to bringing his GF to Temptation Island.

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I think it’s just you on Chelsea’s side.

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His first inclination to seeing Chelsea sitting between Blake's legs in the pool is "Whelp, she's fricking him." That's just further cemented by the bonfire where he sees them kiss.

At this point, his false equivalency is that if you're kissing someone, you're definitely fricking them. That's the currency he takes at the Bank of Tom. It also tells us that those are the rules he plays by off the Island.

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Didn’t he get to the cheating part from how cold her video was? That was when he got real upset.

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He's convinced himself that Chelsea is cheating on him, so now in his head, he's justified in going full bore on the gross little Latina girl.

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He isn’t convinced, he knows Chelsea cheated on him because cheating can be less than fricking. Their rules included not kissing. She cheated even if it isn’t as bad as fricking. He may be flirting and having a good time, but he didn’t break the rules. Everyone even Julian is having a good time because they set up these parties for the cast, she knows that and knows why he is doing these things. She is just a shite person.

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Production sets up the parties/games.

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If you've never watched the scripted series UnREAL, you owe it to yourself to check it out. There were 4 seasons, IIRC. It's "fictionalized" written by a former Bachelor producer. The names are changed to protect the "innocent", but you know good and well that 90% of the things that happen on this show really went down.

It'll totally transform the way you look at reality dating shows.

The producers are completely pulling folks' strings off-camera.

Watching the episode tonight. Can’t wait!

Oh and Chelsea is full up awful.

Sophia just isn’t cute. Like at all.

Erin is pissing me off with this “he didn’t say I love you” when she didn’t even say that shite herself. God that’s so annoying. And Corey is being completely normal in his bonfire videos and she is overly freaking out and turning it into the worst things imaginable. I guess in a weird way that may be ultimately a good thing for them though.

I nailed Kendal weeks ago. He’s such an a-hole and doesn’t give a frick about anything. It’s hilarious. And these chicks on the island, and the guys he’s with too, are all seeing it and IMO are getting tired of it. His whole “I’m good, it’s all her” and “it’s impossible that she would connect with someone else or cheat on me because I’m so perfect” schtick is so dumb and you can tell he doesn’t even believe it.

Kristen is freaking out and Julian may be having the best “journey” of any of the guys on the show outside of Corey. She just doesn’t want to be with him IMO. I even think they could end up together and engaged at the end of the show, but it won’t last because she won’t ever really trust him and she’s just too comfortable and scared to leave.

Chelsea is an idiot. She’s done as much, and worse, than Tom has. And she’s completely oblivious to what she’s doing. I was really hoping Mark would call her out on her hypocrisy but he didn’t. She’s sitting there bitching about Tom being “flirty” and completely ignoring that she’s making out with someone and feeling all up on his jammy.

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Kristen is freaking out and Julian may be having the best “journey” of any of the guys on the show outside of Corey. She just doesn’t want to be with him IMO. I even think they could end up together and engaged at the end of the show, but it won’t last because she won’t ever really trust him and she’s just too comfortable and scared to leave.

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Yeah it definitely seems like she is trying to find an out and was hoping he would cheat. With all the family ties and history she just can’t make the decision to leave.

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Erin is pissing me off with this “he didn’t say I love you” when she didn’t even say that shite herself. God that’s so annoying. And Corey is being completely normal in his bonfire videos and she is overly freaking out and turning it into the worst things imaginable. I guess in a weird way that may be ultimately a good thing for them though.

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That shite she gave that one dude for calling Corey boring was telling. She knows he’s right. Corey may not be boring, but she definitely thinks he is boring for her. Corey needs to check out.

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That shite she gave that one dude for calling Corey boring was telling. She knows he’s right. Corey may not be boring, but she definitely thinks he is boring for her. Corey needs to check out.

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She's the only person in the house who knows Corey, so if a relative stranger gets the impression that Corey is boring, then it has to come from her. She know she's likely fricked up big time by bringing a nice dude into a house full of thirsty single girls who have lamented their inability to find a decent guy.

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She's the only person in the house who knows Corey, so if a relative stranger gets the impression that Corey is boring, then it has to come from her.

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Yeah that's what I don't get, and I was glad they showed some of the other guys talking about that. One even said "The only reason he said that is because she herself has said that exact thing." And he's right.

I actually kinda like Erin but she's been annoying lately. And I was kinda surprised to see Chelsea of all people talking her down off the edge a little bit and telling her to relax with the "He didn't say he loved meeee!" bullshite.

The girl Corey is vibing is kinda cute and seems cool. I know Corey is still pretty heavily devoted to Erin, but it would be nice to see him leave the island alone and then end up with that chick. Don't get me wrong, the only way that relationship ends IMO is if Erin ends it, but that would be cool to see him do it.

Jumping onto this thread to give my thoughts:

Kendal sucks. Continuing to try to manipulate three women at the same time, and doesn't even seem bothered by it at all. Erica will be better off after all of this.

Corey does seem like a nice guy, and I actually believe Erin didn't understand exactly how much he cared or how she was treating him until now. They'll make it out, and I think they'll be in a better spot because of it.

Chelsea and Tom are both terrible. I understand why people are trying to defend Tom, but feels like he came here to flirt with other women and didn't think Chelsea would connect with anyone. I think Chelsea likes guys with huge egos. Blake seems similar to Tom, just isn't able to flirt with the other women now because they don't like him at all. Chelsea being hypocritical doesn't surprise me at all. I just don't like either of them.

I think Kristen and Julian are going to make it. I agree that Kristen going back to him after the OD adds some emotional attachment to their relationship, but he legitimately looks beaten up over what he's done in the past. He hasn't done anything to jeopardize that at all.

The bonfires where everyone overreacts to the 10 seconds of the "partying" is kind of hilarious when they know that if there was something worse, they would see it. I'd be more worried about the emotional attachments than Julian running around with a girl on his back, especially when that girl is the one continuously in Tom's videos.

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And I want to defend my stance on Chelsea. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Tom either. He sucks and is an idiot. But Chelsea is just much, much worse than he is. And she’s a total hypocrite. And a terrible person. Tom sucks, but she is another level of terrible.

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Yeah I hate both, but Tom has been honest about his flirting. He has said he is a flirt and he likes to have fun and be flirty. Chelsea needs to move on if she can’t handle someone flirty, which she is clearly doing, but her incessant complaining about him being flirty and her doing the exact same shite and even progressing to making out with the other guy is absolute garbage. If she came in and was chill and just had fun and wasn’t flirty, she would have a leg to stand on, but she can’t have it both ways.

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I don't understand this viewpoint, at all.

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How not? She's a complete hypocrite. She bases everything she does on "Well Tom's a flirt." She pushes past lines that they had set for themselves and tries to justify any-and-everything she does by blaming it on him. All the while never acknowledging the shite she does wrong. Rewatch the season...literally everything she does that is questionable is justified with "Well he doesn't respect me" or "well he is flirting."

I'm not saying Tom isn't a douche. And I'm not saying he's acting like someone in a relationship should. But at least he's kept their boundaries in the back of his mind and hasn't crossed them. Chelsea's singular focus is blaming everything on Tom.

And on top of all of that, like someone else mentioned, she liked Blake. Then let some other dudes get in her head, so she dropped Blake and liked some other dude. Then she freaked out and got rid of that dude. And now she's back to Blake because she has to have someone there to push boundaries with "because Tom is a flirt." So now she's all back on the Blake bandwagon. She doesn't really like that dude...she thinks he's fake (and she's right). But she's the kind of woman that has to have someone around, and she also wants to keep pushing the envelope because she thinks Tom is a flirt.