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re: Star Wars: Episode VII': Release set for December 18, 2015

Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:35 pm to
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EU...Vector Prime


Get this weak shite off the board

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108148 posts
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:51 pm to
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First one not to be a May release?


Well, honestly, December is the big month now. If you've got for sure the highest grossing film of the year, releasing it around Christmas is the way to go. The Hobbit has it covered for the next 2 years, but why shouldn't the other great franchise cover it once the Hobbit is finished?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:54 pm to
Sweet, I can't wait for June 2016!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108148 posts
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:58 pm to
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They will "ignore" what they want but to have a story written, produced, filmed, and out in two years without adapting existing work means it will suck. The Vong are a better storyline than anything they can come up with. They won't be constrained by the EU ie whatever they write if it contradicts EU sources then the movies take precedence that is how it currently is. But too many concepts started in the EU by people other than Lucas that have actually leeched into the movies to the point to cut out 20 years of hard work would be completely counter productive. Especially if they want a movie out before the next President takes office.


This post absolutely reeks of delusional fanboy. If I were writing the sequel series, I wouldn't give two fricks about anything outside of the original trilogy, so anything in the prequels and the EU would be ignored. Don't act as if any competent filmmaker would let anything established in either of those stand in his way of making the film he wants to make. Sorry, but 99% of the population does not give a single frick about the Expanded Universe. If they came up with a better idea for a story that contradicted the EU, do you really think that would stop them simply because 350,000 people bought a fricking Star Wars novel? Drop it, and you're delusional if you think it couldn't be done better; anything can be done better.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 10:00 pm
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:51 pm to
The Thrawn trilogy, also known as the Heir to the Empire trilogy, is a series of best-selling novels written by Timothy Zahn. The novels are set in the Expanded Universe (EU) of the Star Wars galaxy approximately five years after the events depicted in the film Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi.
The series introduced many notable characters of the EU, such as Mara Jade, Talon Karrde, and Grand Admiral Thrawn, one of the more notable villains in the EU.
It was followed by the The Hand of Thrawn two-book series (1997 and 1998), also authored by Zahn.
Contents [hide]
1 Summary
2 Books in the series
3 Reception, sales and influence
4 Adaptations
4.1 Role-playing game adaptations
5 References
Summary[edit]

As the first book opens, the Rebellion, now known as the New Republic, is still fighting to mop up final Imperial resistance and set up a functional government. Out in the fringes of the galaxy, the most brilliant of all the hand-picked Grand Admirals is gaining strength and preparing to attack the New Republic. After convincing a Dark Jedi to join his side, Grand Admiral Thrawn is confident of his victory.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:53 pm to
The Black Fleet Crisis is a trilogy set in the Star Wars Expanded Universe. The books take place 16 years after Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. All three novels were authored by Michael P. Kube-McDowell and published by Bantam Books between March 1996 and November 1998.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:54 pm to
The Hand of Thrawn is a pair of novels set in the Star Wars Expanded Universe galaxy, written by Timothy Zahn. The books continue Zahn's eight-book series which chronologically began with the Outbound Flight Project.[clarification needed]
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:56 pm to
The Corellian system, unhappy with the leadership of the Galactic Alliance, secedes. While the GA attempts to bring Corellia back into the fold, other systems follow Corellia's lead. Meanwhile, Jedi Knight Jacen Solo believes he has the potential to defeat the threat and unify the galaxy. His methods draw the ire of his uncle Luke Skywalker and the Jedi Council, leading to a rift in the Jedi Order. Over the course of the nine books, the GA, the Jedi, Jacen, Corellia, the Imperial Remnant, and several other factions all vie for power, leading to a confrontation that will dramatically reshape the future of the galaxy.
A side-plot involves Boba Fett's family issues, leadership of the Mandalorians, and role in the galactic conflict.
Posted by willeaux
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 8:27 am to
Wait, didn't the rebellion win?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 8:40 am to
Please ban yourself now and quit posting this idiotic EU crap. it is all crap and none of it will ever appear in the sequel trilogy
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 8:43 am to
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Wait, didn't the rebellion win?




In the EU no one ever wins. You had the Republic become the Empire which lost to the Rebellion and became the Imperial Remnant. The Rebellion became the New Republic though it was nowhere near as big as the Old Republic. The Vong invaded. The New Republic was fighting them in a suicidal manner so our heroes we are used to hearing/seeing (Luke Leia Han Wedge Lando among others) formed a group which lead to the New Republic combining with the Imperial Remnant and the Hapan Consortium (uniting the entire galaxy under one government) to become the Galactic Alliance and win the Vong war. Han and Leia's son falls to the the Dark Side and gains control of the Galactic Alliance. Coreilla (aka Wedge and the Solo homeworld) rebels over high taxes used to rebuilding the galaxy after the Vong war. This pits our heroes on opposite sides of one another until Jacen's twin sister Jaina kills him. The Empire reasserts it self as sorta good guys. The heir to the empire Jagged Fel marries Jaina. Flash forward 100 years, the Empire has their own "imperial knights" who serve the Emperor as long as he serves the light side of the force.
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:38 am to
Sounds awful. None of that crap will be in the new movies.
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:43 am to
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Sounds awful. None of that crap will be in the new movies.



That is the problem though it already has. You can't scrap the EU entirely like some idiots have suggested because that conflicts what has been shown on screen with the Lucasfilm created Shadows of the Empire which has leeched into the OT. The best way to look at the EU as long as it doesn't contract what is in the movies its still canon.

But nothing they can come with in a year can match the Yuuzhan Vong. Research them for 10 minutes you will see.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42458 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:48 am to
They will ruin the franchise if they rush it
Get it done right
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:50 am to
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They will ruin the franchise if they rush it
Get it done right



Yep and I know why they are rushing though its because Lucas figured out the story doesn't work without Han Luke and Leia in some form. Ideally, 2013 George Lucas could go back to 1994 George Lucas slap him around and have him do 7,8,9 when those actors were in their 40s which fits the NJO timeline. Granted the NJO didn't start until 99.
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 9:52 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115685 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:58 am to
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You can't scrap the EU entirely


I don't know what you don't get about this, but that is exactly what you are doing.

And you can scrap it entirely. The ONLY thing they are considering canon is whats in the OT and PT. They've said this definitively. The end.

Any other materials, Shadows of the Empire, the EU, the fricking Christmas Special...all of that stuff is completely irrelevant.

Sorry.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14418 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 10:01 am to
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But nothing they can come with in a year can match the Yuuzhan Vong. Research them for 10 minutes you will see.


Liberty. I brushed up on some of the EU material, particularly the Vong stuff and its not bad at all.

I know some are knocking the quality of the EU. I'm not but at the same time, Disney has said they are not using it. Do you understand what I'm saying?

How good the EU is or isn't is a separate discussion than if the material will be used in 7,8, and 9.

EU does look good.

EU won't be in the forthcoming films.

ETA:

Fun Bunch. You and I need to stage an intervention for the poor guy.
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 10:02 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115685 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 10:11 am to
I read a lot of the EU, I didn't read the Vong stuff though, although I knew what happens.

It just isn't relevant. It doesn't matter. It won't be used.

And to say a team of writers that are professional moviemakers can't come up with a better story than the EU in the 2+ years they've had to develop this based on Lucas' long in gestation notes is just the height of retardation.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108148 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 10:12 am to
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That is the problem though it already has. You can't scrap the EU entirely like some idiots have suggested because that conflicts what has been shown on screen with the Lucasfilm created Shadows of the Empire which has leeched into the OT. The best way to look at the EU as long as it doesn't contract what is in the movies its still canon. But nothing they can come with in a year can match the Yuuzhan Vong. Research them for 10 minutes you will see.


Absolute delusional fanboyism. You clowns will still be arguing until the day it is released that they won't contradict the EU, when there's basically no way they won't.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14418 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 10:14 am to
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And to say a team of writers that are professional moviemakers can't come up with a better story than the EU in the 2+ years they've had to develop this based on Lucas' long in gestation notes is just the height of retardation.


This is why I'm still not sure if Liberty is trolling or not.

If I get hired to write the next Star Wars, why the frick would I want to use any of someone else's material so that they can get even a fraction of the credit if the movie is a hit?

Aside from that, if I was a writer, I would assume I would love creating and writing as much of my own material as possible. Why would I use the EU?

ETA:

If I WERE a writer... Obviously I am not one.
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 10:15 am
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