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Spaghetti Westerns: overrated?
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:08 pm
I watched Fistful of Dollars again tonight. Incomprehensible plot, gratuitous violence, no character development, and that pretty much describes all these movies. Spectacular scenery, I'll give them that, but otherwise, what's the big deal?
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:10 pm to Jim Rockford
Because ESTEBAN has those dreamy eyes.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:11 pm to Jim Rockford
Fistfull of Dollars is the weakest of that trilogy. The other two are far superior.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:12 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:17 pm to Jim Rockford
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I watched Fistful of Dollars again tonight. Incomprehensible plot, gratuitous violence, no character development, and that pretty much describes all these movies.
Yeah, no. If you truly find the plot of Fistful of Dollars incomprehensible (or most of the spaghetti westerns for that matter) I would hate to see you watch a movie with a really complicated plot. Perhaps watch Yojimbo and Fistful of Dollars back to back, since they are the same movie.
I'd agree with Fistful having little character development, but The Good, the bad, the ugly has a ton, and Once upon a time in the west and A few dollars more both have a good bit.
Fistful of Dollars is easily the weakest of those four by Leone as well, by a fair bit.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:18 pm to Jim Rockford
Sacred ground here if Clint's involved
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:11 pm to Jim Rockford
To fully appreciate the genre, you just need to watch a true classic like The Return of Sabata. The way Lee Van Cleef stares at someone for ten minutes before he slowly raises a toy sci-fi gun will really open your eyes to the full potential of the medium. Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:20 pm to PowerTool
The OP is smoking crack. Once upon a Time in the West is pure spaghetti western gold!
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:32 pm to PowerTool
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:35 pm to Jim Rockford
I have to ask you guys. What exactly is a Spaghetti Western?
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:06 pm to lsusportsman2
I believe they are basically westerns made by Italian directors and/or producers.
I disagree, it's my favorite of the trilogy. Big fan of Yojimbo too.
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Fistfull of Dollars is the weakest of that trilogy. The other two are far superior.
I disagree, it's my favorite of the trilogy. Big fan of Yojimbo too.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:26 pm to Cosmo
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:28 pm to Kafka
Once Upon a Time in the West isn't really a true Spaghetti Western (it was filmed in Monument Valley).
A spaghetti western is simply a western filmed in Italy and there have been a lot more not filmed by Sergio Leone.
A spaghetti western is simply a western filmed in Italy and there have been a lot more not filmed by Sergio Leone.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:43 pm to lsusportsman2
quote:Westerns of the late '60s and early '70s produced by Italians and generally shot in Southern Spain
What exactly is a Spaghetti Western?
These films tend to be earthier - clothes get dirty, emphasis on people eating, etc.
Often protagonists are not so much heroes or even anti-heroes but more like the less-reprehensible villain. Outlaws are frequently sympathetic.
But the most obvious aspect has got to be the genre's treatment of violence. Violent acts are often shown in a darkly comic way, with wildly overdone sound effects. The overall filmaking style is "operatic", stressing emotional impact over realism.
Spaghetti westerns, along with the James Bond franchise, were both major influences on the evolution of the modern action film.
Here is a fascinating contemporary documentary on the genre:
Western, Italian Style (1968)
Features interviews with directors as well as Chuck (The Rifleman) Connors, whose comments on the differences between characters in US westerns and those made in Europe are quite interesting.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:45 pm to Jim Rockford
I think they're a little overrated. I like them. They look cool and the music is always great but the dubbing takes me out of it sometimes.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:46 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:partly filmed there
Once Upon a Time in the West isn't really a true Spaghetti Western (it was filmed in Monument Valley)
In style it absolutely is a SW
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:23 am to List Eater
Hey List, you ever eat at Spaghetti Western in Houston? They've got the movie posters all over the walls and the menu is themed.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:34 am to PowerTool
Yes. I used to live by the one on TC Jester. Good food
Posted on 2/22/16 at 3:28 am to Jim Rockford
Screen name doesn't mean I think it is the best lol but I personally love the man w/ no name trilogy/once upon a time in the west. Eastwood was one cool Mf'r.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:05 pm to Jim Rockford
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Spaghetti Westerns: overrated?
Not really, their impact is undeniable.
However, I'd always take a Peckinpah or Ford western over a Spaghetti western. Even Once Upon a Time in the West.....
However (Part 2), I think the Western genre maybe has the tightest Top films. The western genre from the 40s to the 80s was just so dominant. There really isn't a huge dip in quality in the top tier. I prefer Wild Bunch over TGTBTU, but Ugly is a phenomenal film.
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