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Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:33 pm
Posted by AshLSU
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:33 pm
Why did they use the Death Star and only take out a city on the two planets? Why not take out the whole planet? That is what the Death Star was designed for after all.

What was the deal with the blind guy? He wasn't a Jedi but that dude kicked more arse than any Jedi ever so far in the movies.

Were all the storm troopers that could actually hit the broad side of a barn killed in this one movie? These dudes where crack shots, but in every other movie, storm troopers can't shoot for shite.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:44 pm to
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Why did they use the Death Star and only take out a city on the two planets? Why not take out the whole planet? That is what the Death Star was designed for after all.



Its development and existence was a closely guarded secret within the higher echelons of the Empire. The Imperial Senate still existed and would not have approved of such a weapon being built. By limiting the destruction, Tarkin was able to ensure that the destructive power of the Death Star, as well as its existence, were kept secret from the politicians on Coruscant.

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What was the deal with the blind guy? He wasn't a Jedi but that dude kicked more arse than any Jedi ever so far in the movies.



He was no Jedi, this is true, but one does not have to be a Jedi or a Sith to wield the Force - if you are Force sensitive that is.

Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:54 pm to
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Why did they use the Death Star and only take out a city on the two planets? Why not take out the whole planet? That is what the Death Star was designed for after all.


The Death Star wasn't fully operational yet and the senate hadn't yet been dissolved. In the movie, they kind of make a big deal about having to cover their arse for blowing up the city on Jedah.


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What was the deal with the blind guy? He wasn't a Jedi but that dude kicked more arse than any Jedi ever so far in the movies.


HE wasn't a jedi but was obviously strong in the force. I don't know that he kicked more arse than Obi Wan, though.

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Were all the storm troopers that could actually hit the broad side of a barn killed in this one movie? These dudes where crack shots, but in every other movie, storm troopers can't shoot for shite.


Storm Troopers weren't bad shots in the originals.

In Episode 4, the Empire "is taking an awful risk" by letting Luke and co escape with the Princess in hopes that they lead them to the Rebel base (they do)

In Episode 5, the Empire has the complete upper hand. They win the battle of Hoth. They take over cloud city. The only reason they don't kill Luke is because they set a trap for him to be frozen in carbonite.

In Episode 6, the Empire has the upper hand over the Rebels and would've won easily without interference by the ewoks.

Also plot armor.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/16/17 at 11:56 pm to
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He was no Jedi, this is true, but one does not have to be a Jedi or a Sith to wield the Force - if you are Force sensitive that is.

His midichlorian count was just below the threshold needed to be a Jedi.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:09 am to
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His midichlorian count was just below the threshold needed to be a Jedi.



The guy freaking knew the walkers were coming... what Jedi has ever done that? He also walked out into a barrage of laser fire and was unharmed. Dude was a master of the force IMO.

Do we know much about what he was really? Obviously he wasn't a Jedi, but could it be that much like the dark side has different sects, does the light side also have that? I mean, do all light side force users have to be lightsaber wielding Jedi? Couldn't there be a sect that doesn't use lightsabers?
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:19 am to
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we know much about what he was really? Obviously he wasn't a Jedi, but could it be that much like the dark side has different sects, does the light side also have that? I mean, do all light side force users have to be lightsaber wielding Jedi? Couldn't there be a sect that doesn't use lightsabers?

Very good questions. We'll never get these answers probably. I was confused by this character too. We were told he wasn't a Jedi then he does Jedi feats. Being blind but able to do all those things, he must've had some Force ability.
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:22 am to
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Very good questions. We'll never get these answers probably. I was confused by this character too. We were told he wasn't a Jedi then he does Jedi feats. Being blind but able to do all those things, he must've had some Force ability.


You don't have to be a Jedi to use the force. Using the force doesn't make you a Jedi.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:25 am to
What other characters have ever been able to meaningfully use the force but weren't Jedi or Sith?
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:27 am to
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What other characters have ever been able to meaningfully use the force but weren't Jedi or Sith?


Rey, Leia, Anakin, lots of characters in the cartoon series

Some people are force sensitive. Some of those learn from Jedi or Sith. Some don't. Jedi and Sith are just particular schools of thought for using the force. They do not have a monopoly on the force.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 4:25 am
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:50 am to
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Why did they use the Death Star and only take out a city on the two planets? Why not take out the whole planet? That is what the Death Star was designed for after all.


Because that happens in A New Hope and A New Hope came out 40 years ago.

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What was the deal with the blind guy? He wasn't a Jedi but that dude kicked more arse than any Jedi ever so far in the movies.


Ip Man is one with the Force and the Force is with Ip Man.

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Were all the storm troopers that could actually hit the broad side of a barn killed in this one movie? These dudes where crack shots, but in every other movie, storm troopers can't shoot for shite.


The thing about stormtroopers being terrible shots just comes from people not understanding that they were under orders to let Han, Luke and Leia escape from the Death Star so that they could track the Falcon back to the Rebel base, which they did.

"Are they away?"
"They have just jumped into hyperspace."
"You're sure the homing beacon is aboard their ship? I'm taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work."
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 1:51 am
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 6:20 am to
He was a Whill. The Whills were the guardians of the Jedi temple on Jedha. So while he might not be an actual Jedi, he obviously was familiar with how to at least feel the Force, if not wield it himself. And that's what I took from his character: he didn't use the Force to make anything happen, the way a Jedi would. He was simply attuned to it enough to understand its flow.

As an aside, does anyone else feel like naming the home of the Jedi temple "Jedha" was a very subtle attempt to explain where the word "Jedi" came from?
Posted by theunknownknight
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 8:16 am to
To answer all three questions: because this movie was stupid
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 9:00 am to
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He was a Whill. The Whills were the guardians of the Jedi temple on Jedha. So while he might not be an actual Jedi, he obviously was familiar with how to at least feel the Force, if not wield it himself. And that's what I took from his character: he didn't use the Force to make anything happen, the way a Jedi would. He was simply attuned to it enough to understand its flow.



This is the common theory right here is that he was a Whill or came from them. Force sensitives that weird the grey force, not light or dark.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9769 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 9:03 am to
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Why did they use the Death Star and only take out a city on the two planets? Why not take out the whole planet? That is what the Death Star was designed for after all.


It was a weapon's test, and they had no need to destroy the entire planet.

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What was the deal with the blind guy? He wasn't a Jedi but that dude kicked more arse than any Jedi ever so far in the movies.


Disney trying too hard to turn the force into something more spiritual than scientific.

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Were all the storm troopers that could actually hit the broad side of a barn killed in this one movie? These dudes where crack shots, but in every other movie, storm troopers can't shoot for shite.


The plot armor was pretty thick on the main cast until they had to be written out, but the characters in this film are slightly above the average rebel soldier. The real answer is just that Star Wars was always considered a kid's film. Stormtrooper's look imposing, but the heroes are never meant to be in any real danger.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 9:04 am
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 9:32 am to
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Rey, Leia, Anakin, lots of characters in the cartoon series Some people are force sensitive. Some of those learn from Jedi or Sith. Some don't. Jedi and Sith are just particular schools of thought for using the force. They do not have a monopoly on the force.


Understandable. But these characters use the force to get a very slight edge in the events of their life. This guy did far more than that. He even used the JEDI MIND TRICK. Granted it wasn't nearly as effective as when Obi Wan did it, but he still did it.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 9:41 am to
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Disney trying too hard to turn the force into something more spiritual than scientific.


Good, we don't need midichlorians
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40814 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:12 am to
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What other characters have ever been able to meaningfully use the force but weren't Jedi or Sith?


For the average star wars fan, no other characters wield the force besides Jedi and Sith. But if you watch and pay attention to shows like the animated Clone Wars and Rebels shows. There are several characters who are force wielders but not sith or jedi. Even some beings known as Whills, which is basically beings completely made of the force. Not human, not alien, just force beings. They are the ones who taught Qui Gon Jinn, Yoda, and Obi Wan how to manifest themselves as force beings after their physical death.

Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40814 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:35 am to
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This is the common theory right here is that he was a Whill or came from them.


He was not a whill. Just a guardian. Whills are force beings. Not actual physical beings.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40814 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:38 am to
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Disney trying too hard to turn the force into something more spiritual than scientific.


No, the Whills were something Lucas had originally come up with during the original trilogy storyboard days.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51435 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:47 am to
or he could've been a jedi if there were jedi left to train him. He was probably jedi material.
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