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Posted on 12/21/15 at 7:04 am
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 7:04 am
Please post your theories/thoughts related to the final 2 movies. Here is one of mine:

Rey dies in the end in order for there to a balance in the Force.

It would seem that history is repeating itself with Luke trying to train Kylo Ren with Ren turning to the dark side. No matter what side of Force is currently prevailing there is always an “Awaking” from the other side. The only true way for there to be balance is death by everyone who has the Force.
Posted by UnAnon
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 7:20 am to
Tbh I think that TFA was trying to build relationships with fans while creating enough loose ends to move along in the plot. For as much dislike about TFA being a modern take on ANH, there is sure a lot of things we have zero clue about.

The politics of the universe.
Knights of Ren
What turned Ben
Where did Vaders helmet come from
Where did Anakins/Lukes Saber come from
Is Rey the chosen one?
Maybe Ren is the chosen one, could he flip?
Will we see essentially a new Jedi order? Will the KoR be the "dark Jedi antagonist"

What is Snokes plans and who is he? Why does he care if he's potentially dead?

How big is The new Order

How strong is the Resistance

Is the New Repbulic gone for good?

Are there more Jedi Exiles?

Will the new order bring back cloning as Ren hinted

Who is the 1000 year old pirate and what is her significance

What is Chewies fate?

What happened between VI and VII?

Will this also tie into I II and III?

Etc.

They have many directions and I think the film did very well in leaving us clueless to what could happen next
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 7:22 am
Posted by Crawdaddy
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 7:58 am to
Where is Jar Jar Binks grand son?
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:26 am to
quote:

It would seem that history is repeating itself with Luke trying to train Kylo Ren with Ren turning to the dark side. No matter what side of Force is currently prevailing there is always an “Awaking” from the other side. The only true way for there to be balance is death by everyone who has the Force.

This is where Snoke's connection to the Dark Side comes into play. How is he connected? Was he some sort of protege to Palpatine/Vader? If so, he could theoretically train others than Ren, leading to more Jedi being needed on the other side.

My theory is that the First Order finally abandons the 'great weapon' scheme and adapts to the will of Kylo (after his powers have grown), who basically leads an all-out assault on the Republic while he personally continues to search for Luke and Rey. The bad guys should have the upper hand in the next 2 films, because the good guys have won in Episode 6 and 7.

I think Rey will ultimately become more powerful than Luke, and will probably be the greatest Jedi ever.
Posted by cheesewithmike
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:03 am to
quote:

This is where Snoke's connection to the Dark Side comes into play. How is he connected? Was he some sort of protege to Palpatine/Vader? If so, he could theoretically train others than Ren, leading to more Jedi being needed on the other side.


I read an interesting theory suggesting that Snoke is actually Darth Plagueis, Palpatines former master. Not saying I believe it or not, but the theory does hold water.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:05 am to
Somebody already did this LINK
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:08 am to
The obvious one is that Rey is Luke's daughter.

I can see Kylo turning to the lightside as the reveal of the second film, leading to a massive conflict with the powerful Snoke. This would flip the script on the previous series, especially with all the parallels and straight up plot point rip offs (Deathstar v1.3) in this first one.

Han isn't dead (this is me hoping even though I know he is as dead as can be)
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Tbh I think that TFA was trying to build relationships with fans while creating enough loose ends to move along in the plot. For as much dislike about TFA being a modern take on ANH, there is sure a lot of things we have zero clue about.



This has always been my biggest problem with the OT, and my favorite thing about the PT. I feel like there is so much more to Star Wars than just the very very small glimpse that you get in the OT. I totally understand why they didn't fill it up with giant cities and crap (budget), but it's still a point to be made. I think the PT, for all its flaws, did a good job of trying to actually immerse you in the far far away galaxy rather than just in one particular place. I want to know so much about everything. I want to see other planets and cities and cultures and just learn more about it. I liked TFA a LOT, but this was again a problem for me. Come on, man. There is more to this galaxy than just the skywalkers...
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:39 am to
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can see Kylo turning to the lightside as the reveal of the second film, l


I SERIOUSLY doubt this one. He made the final choice to nail his decision. I doubt we see him even conflicting about what side he is on moving forward. I think the 2nd film will show him as a mega badass with his completed training and perhaps he defeats Rey or Luke at the end, and in the third film they have to kill both him and Snoke n
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

can see Kylo turning to the lightside as the reveal of the second film, l



I SERIOUSLY doubt this one. He made the final choice to nail his decision. I doubt we see him even conflicting about what side he is on moving forward. I think the 2nd film will show him as a mega badass with his completed training and perhaps he defeats Rey or Luke at the end, and in the third film they have to kill both him and Snoke n





I don't disagree. I am simply stating that I can see that happening due to him being fully darkside now. Nobody expects the light side flip so soon. I think it would be interesting to do something a bit different, considering all of their "reveals" were foreshadowed to the point that none of them are surprising by the time they happen
Posted by Rhames
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:11 pm to
Kylo isn't turning good.


There are interviews with JJ where he says he wanted kylo to be a work in progress. Someone who becomes more evil


Could be misdirection but I doubt it
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Could be misdirection but I doubt it



I do too
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

It would seem that history is repeating itself with Luke trying to train Kylo Ren with Ren turning to the dark side. No matter what side of Force is currently prevailing there is always an “Awaking” from the other side. The only true way for there to be balance is death by everyone who has the Force.
I don't think the "balance" thing is being adhered to in this trilogy. It was kind of awkward to begin with, so I really don't mind.

I think Luke will probably die, but I doubt that Rey will.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 5:33 pm to
Some kind of reveal about the Jedi Temple.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 5:38 pm
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

It would seem that history is repeating itself with Luke trying to train Kylo Ren with Ren turning to the dark side. No matter what side of Force is currently prevailing there is always an “Awaking” from the other side. The only true way for there to be balance is death by everyone who has the Force.


That would be fricking horrible.


Nevermind the fact that killing off all Jedi/Sith means nothing. Force sensitives will continue to be born, and it won't be long until we're right back to the status quo.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

I read an interesting theory suggesting that Snoke is actually Darth Plagueis, Palpatines former master. Not saying I believe it or not, but the theory does hold water.


That's not even really a theory. It was widely expected that Snoke was Plagueis going into the movie. What has thrown cold water on that is that Plagueis is a Muun which is a race in the SW universe that looks nothing like the hologram we saw in the movies.

I still think it is Plagueis. Because we have only seen this hologram of Snoke and because of how The Sith operate, it would be easy for the writers of E8 to make the hologram not a true representation of Snoke physically.

Also, in the SW universe, any Sith Master is going to have to be part of a chain going back and with the rule of 2 (Both died in ROTJ), the choices are going to be limited. He's Plagueis. The Palpatine speech to Anakin in E3 about Plagueis being obsessed with immortality and making breakthroughs provide an open door to bring him back as the new trilogy Sith.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 6:47 pm
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

I still think it is Plagueis. Because we have only seen this hologram of Snoke and because of how The Sith operate, it would be easy for the writers of E8 to make the hologram not a true representation of Snoke physically.


Who is to say that Plagueis' body perished at the hands of Palpatine, but his spirit remained? In the years leading up to The Force Awakens, Plagueis could've since learned how to maintain control of a host body.

The Sith Emperor in SW:TOR is capable of this, so it stands to reason Plagueis could've figured it out.

Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 6:50 pm to
Yeah, that's one option. There are many ways they could bring back Plagueis and it is set up nicely by the prequels. The Palpatine speech about Plagueis is low hanging fruit for the writers and one way or another, Snoke is gonna end up being Plagueis.

Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 8:17 pm to
Here's one of mine (I haven't decided if there's enough fuel for the fire on anything yet):

TFA bears an extremely strong resemblance to ANH, as has been beaten to death on several threads.
So, Rey "is" Luke. That much seems pretty clear, this will be her story now. All the rest of it will be great fun, but not as significant as her own actions.

Like Luke, she has been set into motion by an older figure, a key warrior of the last great conflict. She, like Luke, finds the mentor to be a father figure. That much is directly stated by Ren, as he read her mind.
That figure dies in a pivotal conflict before our young hero's eyes while in the act of saving him/her, and sets the hero down a path, in opposition to the dark robed bad guy with the red lightsaber, the faceless storm troopers and their Tie fighters, and everything they represent.

All of this is set in stone, and pretty much equal in both stories.

Here's where it differs, and I think people are overlooking it: Old Ben was a Jedi, he told Luke to be a Jedi, he guided him to Yoda, etc. Luke became a Jedi for that reason, more than anything else. He wasn't devoted to it, he left to save his friends, his goal was to defeat the bad guys.

Han Solo was Rey's mentor, and he's not a Jedi, he's a pirate and a smuggler. He doesn't tell Rey to be a Jedi, he offers her a place on his ship. He introduces her to a world of pirates and criminals (whatever you do, don't stare) worthy of the Mos Eisley cantina, but that isn't just a place to find a ride as it was in ANH, it's the place she finds her lightsaber (Luke's old one), and it's where she meets a figure with a thousand year's worth of knowledge and wisdom. Here, the Force touches her and gives her a flash of knowledge. It is not among the active Resistance (she is gone before they arrive), it is in the company of thieves.

I think that is her path, not a Jedi.

Evidence?
Luke's Jedi training failed, and he's not interested in that anymore (a subplot to the movie, with Ren as exhibit A).
He doesn't take the lightsaber from Rey at the end of this movie, and doesn't welcome her.
He's not interested in the rest of the galaxy, he's in hiding rather than in the Resistance.
While Rey travels to find Luke (the film's quest), she doesn't go it alone like Luke did to meet Yoda, she's with Chewie in the Millenium Falcon (this makes her Han, not Luke).

Less blatant, but maybe more importantly, we did the Jedi thing to death in the prequel trilogy. Star Wars is more than just Jedi, it's a vast menagerie of aliens (most often seen in haunts Solo frequented), with smugglers, rogues and other such adventurers, and we haven't seen that focused on since ANH... until now. Sci Fi involving Solo analogues (Firefly, GOTG, Farscape) have thrived while Lucas gave us the Jedi/Republic story. Well, we're now told the Jedi rebirth failed miserably and the Republic just got blown to bits (and the general of the Storm Troopers is rejecting clones too). That leaves us with the other half of the Star Wars legend, the miscreants.

Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:30 pm to
heres how it all ends


Rey is pregnant with Rens twins the entire galaxay has been destroyed except one last corner when a last stand is being made. The good guys cant win, but they can destroy the bad guys

so Ren puts a preggers Rey into an escape pod shoots them off into space and as they get away he blows it all up destroying EVERYTHING
the escape pod comes out of light speed headed to a small blue green planet es the ship rotates slowly in space revealing the pods name

AdamEve

the end
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