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Posted on 8/13/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/13/16 at 4:49 pm
How did splinter become a rat?

According to the cartoon he was a human who interacted with rats and the original movie a rat who interacted with humans.

I've never read a comic book about this but it seems the cartoon had it right as it would explain the turtles and how they evolved in a sense.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/13/16 at 4:53 pm to
The cartoon was more accurate to the comics. He was a human who trained with Shredder in Japan. Shredder screwed him over and he was exiled. He ended up living in the sewers. Some kid dropped some turtles down there and he made friends with them. The mutagen spilled and they all got some on them.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 4:56 pm to
Yeah that is the take I got from the cartoon but watching the original movie now on Amazon Prime and it made me question this.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39205 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 4:58 pm to
The original movie and the 2014 movie both have different origin stories.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 5:01 pm to
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2014 movie both have different origin stories.


Haven't seen yet sober
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36058 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

How did splinter become a rat?


He was born a rat.

He belonged to someone who was feuding with Shredder's family, Shredder killed Splinter's owner out of revenge.

Splinter fled and ended up in the sewers. The mutagen from the Daredevil canister changed the turtles and Splinter into their anthropomorphic forms.

Some of the movies and toons veered away from the comic origin.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 5:50 pm to
so in the comics he was not human first?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39205 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 5:54 pm to
LINK
Looking at the wiki now at he had a bunch of different origins.
quote:

In the 1987 TMNT cartoon and the TMNT Adventures comics that followed, Hamato Yoshi and Splinter are the same character,

This must be the comic version I'm thinking of. I know I read it after I saw the cartoon.
Posted by 82fumanchu
Saskatchewan
Member since Jan 2014
1969 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

He was born a rat. He belonged to someone who was feuding with Shredder's family, Shredder killed Splinter's owner out of revenge. Splinter fled and ended up in the sewers. The mutagen from the Daredevil canister changed the turtles and Splinter into their anthropomorphic forms.

I love the scene when he is in his cage mimicking his master's ninja training.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17176 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 6:09 pm to
In the comics reboot (also written by Kevin Eastman) he changed it up some.

Splinter and his four sons were killed by Shredder and later reincarnated basically as the turtles and rat. I like this version a little better....since Kevin Eastman wrote both I'll assume he agreed the original origin story could use an improvement.
This post was edited on 8/14/16 at 12:49 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 7:01 pm to
Not sure I like that version
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22377 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 9:31 pm to
quote:


Splinter and his three sons were killed by Shredder and later reincarnated basically as the turtles and rat. I like this version a little better....since Kevin Eastman wrote both I'll assume he agreed the original origin story could use an improvement.


What sbout the 4th ninja turtle?
Posted by tigerman03
Metairie
Member since Jul 2008
3746 posts
Posted on 8/13/16 at 10:34 pm to
Just the family pet turtle who was killed too.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17176 posts
Posted on 8/14/16 at 12:48 am to
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What sbout the 4th ninja turtle?


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