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Olivia de Havilland is now 101 and suing FX & FEUD

Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:00 pm
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:00 pm


Olivia de Havilland is turning 101 this weekend, and she’s got no time for Ryan Murphy’s nonsense

The Gone With the Wind actress filed a legal complaint in Los Angeles County Superior Court Friday stating that Murphy’s FX drama, FEUD: Bette and Joan, paints her as a Hollywood gossip, something she claims she’s gone out of her way to avoid during her long career.

De Havilland specifically objects to her likeness being included in the anthology series’ Bette Davis/Joan Crawford-centered first season without her consent. (Catherine Zeta-Jones plays the Oscar-winning actress in the show.) De Havilland is suing Ryan Murphy Productions and the network for invasion of privacy, unjust enrichment and infringement of common law right of publicity.


“Miss de Havilland was not asked by FX for permission to use her name and identity and was not compensated for such use,” de Havilland’s attorneys told the Los Angeles Times. “Further, the FX series puts words in the mouth of Miss de Havilland which are inaccurate and contrary to the reputation she has built over an 80-year professional life, specifically refusing to engage in gossip mongering about other actors in order to generate media attention for herself.”

In April, Murphy told The Hollywood Reporter that he hadn’t approached de Havilland about her involvement with the show because, among other reasons, he didn’t want to be “disrespectful.”

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This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:38 pm to
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The great Olivia de Havilland turns 101 tomorrow and is now suing FEUD


Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:50 pm to
Pretty sure people in the public eye don't have the same expectations of privacy.

Also, damn. Way to be a miserable old woman. Be glad people know who you are.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:12 pm to
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Also, damn. Way to be a miserable old woman. Be glad people know who you are.


If she never consented to have her likeness used, she absolutely has a case.

When doing any sort of media featuring a real person, you ALWAYS have to have the permission of the individual, or if the individual is dead, the members of that individual's estate authorized to act on their behalf.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:16 pm to
it's slandering her good name by not portraying her in an accurate way
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:11 pm to
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alajones



You got served.
Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:32 pm to
She's a public figure I think they can use her likeness and say whatever they want. Just ask every president for the last 30 years.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:41 pm to
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Be glad people know who you are.


You have no idea who she is, do you...
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18538 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:04 pm to
as much as I like Catherine Zeta-Jones, she seemed like an odd choice to play de Havilland
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:21 pm to
You and Roll are both retarded. I seriously can't think of any other reason for your posts.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18538 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:19 am to
I guess this wipes out any potential FEUD: Olivia de Havilland vs. Joan Fontaine season
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 5:12 am to
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You and Roll are both retarded. I seriously can't think of any other reason for your posts.



I think you just need to step back and think about the fact that this woman is 101 years old and lucid enough to sue a production company for using her likeness without her permission. Plus she was a babe back in the day, so that's a plus:



Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:50 am to
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lucid enough to sue a production company for using her likeness without her permission.


I'm sure it's the family attorney or the delinquent grandkids
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 7:49 am to
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When doing any sort of media featuring a real person, you ALWAYS have to have the permission of the individual, or if the individual is dead, the members of that individual's estate authorized to act on their behalf.


I don't know why I'm continuing this, because no one ever wins internet arguments. But if I'm just way off, I will gladly accept being wrong.

Where are you getting this information? Is there any evidence to support it? Judging by all the upvotes and people rushing to De Havilland's defense, there must be some overwhelming evidence to prove me wrong here.

SCOTUS has already established that people in the public eye do not have the same expectation of privacy, so there goes that argument.

As far as the "likeness" issue, did Spielberg get Lincoln's family's permission? Did numerous movies have to get it for Kennedy and Nixon? Did David Bowie have to get permission from Tesla? I kind of doubt it. It's not like they are using her likeness to sell soap, they are making art.

De Havilland is 101 years old doesn't like how she's being shown on TV. I've never seen the show, don't know anything about how she is portrayed. But I bet that just like many other examples, her small resurgence in the public eye will probably boost book sales and movies with people's renewed interest in her.

Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:29 am to
There was going to be a book put out about 12 years ago on the feud between Olivia de Havilland and her sister Joan Fontaine, that got crushed by both.


Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 8:52 am to
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SCOTUS has already established that people in the public eye do not have the same expectation of privacy, so there goes that argument.


They can, however, sue if they are defamed. They do not have the same expectation of privacy that others do, but nothing says they can't sue the pants off someone who defames their character by presenting them as having said or done something that they did not do and that portrays them in a negative light.

Satire gets a wave more often then not, but if something is presented in a manner to suggest it is factual then its cry havoc and let slip the attorneys of war.

Let us say, hypothetically speaking, that someone makes a movie called "Nick Saban, racist sheep molester". They hire someone who looks vaguely like Nick Saban. The entire movie is Saban making racist comments and molesting livestock. What is more they present as being factual in nature.

By the way you see things Saban would have no legal recourse at all to stop this slander. In the real world he's going to sue everyone involved with this project and take them to the cleaners.

Just because someone is a public figure it does not mean that you can defame their character. de Havilland absolutely has a case and if they wanted to use her they should have contacted her and her family and gotten their OK.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 11:33 am to
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Olivia de Havilland and her sister Joan Fontaine


what was their beef with each other?
Posted by DarthTiger
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:11 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:51 am
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34470 posts
Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:21 pm to
I appreciate you having a discussion and not just making dumb shite comments.


I think defamation is pretty hard to prove. If Hustler can get away with saying Jerry Falwell's first time was with his mother in an outhouse, I'm thinking F/X can have a lot of leeway with these characters.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 7/1/17 at 12:22 pm to
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