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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:13 pm to
A couple of other things on these episodes:

I love how Prezbo convinces the Asst Prin to let him talk to someone he trusts with the police before she reports it and he goes to Daniels. Daniels says he'll give it to Carver (I had forgotten how Carver got involved with Randy) and Prez is concerned. Really? Aren't you the jack-arse that hit a kid in the eye and changed for the better as a cop?

Also, we assume the Randy is Cheese' son right, though i don't think they ever say it, with the same last name? Which would make him related to Prop Joe (Great Uncle) but Randy is nowhere near cut out for the game. He violates the first rule of the street. The AP just mentions he could be in trouble for a "rape" and he starts singing about shite no one knows he has any tie to Imagine if real cops got a hold of him first.

And, how does no one on the cop side suspect Valchek as a possible leak? Everyone knows he is a weasel and the leaks are help a white councilman from Valcheks district.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:19 pm to
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I don't understand how Cutty thought his behavior with the boys parents was acceptable


I think it's more that he doesn't realize who are the parents of whom. I don't think he knew it was Spider's mom until afterwards.

And he's been locked up for a decade+...dude just wants to get it in.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:19 pm to
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Also, we assume the Randy is Cheese' son right, though i don't think they ever say it, with the same last name?


By canon, he is Cheese's son - they didn't do anything with it, story-wise, or even make the connection onscreen, but Simon confirmed this connection in interviews.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 1:20 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:34 pm to
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fricking herc. always fricking shite up. but it's funny that what is going to get him in shite is a camera. for all the complaints about brutality and overall ridiculousness of his arc, he's going to go down for trying actual police work and just not filling out forms correctly to check out a camera.

Yeah, but frick Herc. I'm glad Marlo is fricking with him so hard. And just on general principle since I haven't said it this week, frick Colicchio too.
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michael's step father is back. conflict: engaged


It was interesting how when Michael was pissed about him picking up Bug from school, when he got home the dad was actually helping Bug with his homework. It's like they were trying to say that he was changed, but Michael knows what he's capable of though.
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these episodes did a good job of talking about education in general. if you can relate learning to something the kids care about, they will actually engage. you just get to see this on 2 different levels (dice with the regular kids and straight up drug talk with the bad kids).

Yeah, I really liked Prez's storyline the first time I watched the series. It's cool to watch him go from having no respect at all to actually getting the kids to engage.

And that whole side class for Namond and the other rejects is so sad. I'm sure there are kids like that everywhere, but man I can't imagine having to deal with that over and over everyday.

And frick Namond Brice.
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carcetti realizing what the police do is almost like watching a character in a horror movie realize they're being hunted. layers of shite upon shite

For real.

I was pissed at Kima though, when she cusses at Carcetti about the coffee ("frick that, you finish the pot, you make some more.."). For chrissakes, be a little professional, bitch.
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:37 pm to
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And just on general principle since I haven't said it this week, frick Colicchio too.

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Posted on 5/16/16 at 5:21 pm to
Forgot to put my comments on these two episodes..

Spider going hard at Cutty. You gotta feel bad for Cutty, but you also have to understand Spider too. Dude fricks your mom and then still wants you to be up in the gym like it didn't happen? frick that.

Omar should've gone to Jimmy before Bunk. Jimmy is his padna, and even though Bunk later starts working the case for him, it was a gamble for Omar IMO.

Damn, Bubbz gets jacked by that a-hole and also the fricking cop? Yikes. I don't remember how that situation ends up coming to an end, but I look forward to it though.

What's funny about this camera thing with Herc is that I forgot about that camera. Seems like it was four or more episodes ago that they had put it there. I realize it likely hasn't been that long, but it's funny how freaked out Herc is about it.

Nah, Namond. frick YOU, bruh. And all of this makes me hate what Bunny does later on even more. Ugh.

I must have missed how Kima solved the Braddock case...I didn't like that they showed her investigating and all that, and then busting into that house gun drawn, and then next time we see her she has the dude in custody. That's stupid. I want to see how she did that.



It's so weird how none of the detectives help each other out. Like Bunk helping these dudes solve the case because he knows what's up and has information on what happened previously. Why the hell would he not give them that information before? I know everybody has their own cases/bodies, but why would they not seek out information from each other that could help break cases open? Stupid.

Prop Joe on the phone with the different voices is hilarious.

Man, you have to feel bad for Michael and Bug. And now Bug's old man is back home...uh oh.

Carcetti making moves with Daniels. Get you some, bruh. It's cool to see Daniels rise in the ranks, and it's so believable how they did it throughout the show. And Burrell is already starting to feel the cold shoulder. Hilarious.

I fricking hate Snoop, but the "You owe me 800 on that, bitch" line was hilarious when Chris Partlow threw that nail gun in the pool. It does seem like they would find a better place (I dunno, like the fricking RIVER that's a few hundred yards away).
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:46 am to
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Feel free to get ahead. At this point, I don't think there are many, if any, people left watching outside of us few. And I seriously doubt any newcomers are participating...if they are then they're certainly not posting in the thread.


Your assumption lead to this spoiler for me:

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hell that murder is what gets chris locked up. it's completely out of the behavioral patterns of season 4 for chris


Just had to get that off my chest, can't open a thread around here lately

Just finished the series yesterday for the first time. Best series I've ever seen.
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:47 am to
sorry
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:00 am to
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Omar should've gone to Jimmy before Bunk. Jimmy is his padna, and even though Bunk later starts working the case for him, it was a gamble for Omar IMO.


Bunk owed Omar a favor for finding the gun, which they do mention. Plus they did come up in the same neighborhood, so I think Omar feels some connection with Da Bunk. The scenes with Omar and Bunk though are some of the best in the series, going back to S1 "A man must have a code" "oh no doubt". After the shootout at the stash house where Tosha gets killed, Bunk grills Omar and if affects his conscience "Conscience do cost" as Butchie says Here Omar gets Bunks conscience a little when points out whoever killed the delivery lady will get a pass. And I love the irony of Omar IDing Bryd even though he didn't see him kill the maintenance man (though we know Bryd did do it) and now Omar is being fingered by Old Face Andre for a crime Omar didn't commit. There is at least 1 more great Bunk-Omar scene coming up.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:06 am to
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Damn, Bubbz gets jacked by that a-hole and also the fricking cop?


One of the grittiest, probably realistic situations in the whole show is Bubs. He's on the margins of society. Essentially homeless. He's not a bad person, per se, but he's in a bad way. He's a survivor, but a passive one. His habit has led him to this place. This is why addiction is tragically fascinating to me - the person hates a facet of himself (the addict) because of the trouble the addict gets him into. And there's nowhere to turn - cops? You're breaking the law. They'll help you if you snitch - maybe, a little, if they aren't crooked, too. Family members? You've already fricked them over too many times to count.

Street thugs? A frail junkie like Bubs is easy prey for them. Just tough. But real, though. This is really happening all over America, whether it be crack, junk or meth.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:16 am to
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Spider going hard at Cutty. You gotta feel bad for Cutty, but you also have to understand Spider too. Dude fricks your mom and then still wants you to be up in the gym like it didn't happen? frick that.


I guess it would be weird being your coach and all, but I would guess over the years Spider's mom was not a nun and it's not like she's cheating on his dad with Cutty. How many kids in that situation have half sibling? Plus it occurs to me cutty is in a pretty good spot, most of the dudes his age in that neighborhood are probably locked up still or dead, lots of horny milfs for him to pick from
Cutty's story arch is a great success story, I hope its based on someone real he's trying to do something good in the community, wants to help the kids but he's clueless sometimes. Quitting the school truancy job because it's just for 1 day was cool, nice if someone really has that type of integrity.

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I must have missed how Kima solved the Braddock case...I didn't like that they showed her investigating and all that, and then busting into that house gun drawn, and then next time we see her she has the dude in custody. That's stupid. I want to see how she did that.


Was awesome though how Norris points out Carcetti got elected on the witness angle when it turns out the dude was just killed by a stray bullet. Poetic justice for the mayor and his boy Irv trying to stonewall the case
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 10:43 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:28 am to
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This is why addiction is tragically fascinating to me - the person hates a facet of himself (the addict) because of the trouble the addict gets him into. And there's nowhere to turn - cops? You're breaking the law.


this to me is the biggest tragedy of the war on drugs. treating addiction as a crime instead of as a disease. I saw a story a few weeks ago where a woman ODed and the DA charged her with felony possession for having drugs in her system.
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:29 am to
i wish i had learned probabilities with dice
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:45 am to
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this to me is the biggest tragedy of the war on drugs. treating addiction as a crime instead of as a disease.

100%

it's damn near evil if you're around the system enough and see what is going on
Posted by jamsmiley
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:50 am to
addiction to drugs is a tragedy that befalls a lot of people . Many of them are good people who can't break free.However, I personally do not support the idea that it is a disease facts or not.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 1:03 pm to
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Your assumption lead to this spoiler for me:

Sorry, man. I meant people participating in the thread. If you've been watching, jump into the thread discussion.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:01 am to
I stumbled across Singles on Starz this weekend and Ole Prezbo is there at the coffee shop in the grunge era

This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 11:54 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:33 am to
OP is updated. I'll add my thoughts when I can (interviewing people all day today).

Poor Bubz, man.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:35 am to
Know your Place:

I must have binged through S4 to fast, a lot of stuff i had forgotten or missed. I had forgotten Perlman gets promoted over the subpoena's she thought would get her demoted and Daniels once exiled on the fast track.

Also forgot how big a deal Herc's camera was. First of all, does this douche ever learn anything? After losing the "illegal" mic on S2, you'd think he'd be more cautious with expensive equipment. The collateral damage he causes looking for it is huge.

Bubbles was never my favorite character, I know a lot of people love him, but his story here is so sad. Even his "friend" Kima was just using him and just passes him off.

Bunk picking up Omar from jail is another great scene with these 2. Bunk demanding "no more bodies" from Omar and of course Omar agrees because a man must have a code.

Prezbo finds out they juke the stats in school, just like the cops. Must be something about the bureaucracy.

Carcetti making moves. Not sure why he trust Rawls (cause he's white?) too bad Daniels didn't give him the real scoop, but i guess he has to be cautious. Ole Carcetti finding out, beating the mayor isn't the end of it though. Nerece is pretty fiya for a council woman.

Bunny taking the kids out is strange scene. could have taken them to Outback or something. It was similar to a scene in S1 with Dee and Donette where Dee feels a little out of place. I would also be remiss if not pointing out the teacher in the corner kids class is also pretty attractive.

Old face Andre, what a dumass. And i do love Landsman getting pissed when Bunk turns the case back to red. Good thing Rawls doesn't head the dept any more.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:40 am to
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Bunny taking the kids out is strange scene. could have taken them to Outback or something.


Ruth's Chris is all Louisiana, baw.
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