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re: Movie That Had Great Trailers to movies that ended up as bad flicks.

Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by Muthsera
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:24 pm to
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Watchmen


I'm ready to hear the defense for

(1) the scoring and direction of the Nite Owl II-Silk Spectre II sex scene

(2) making Dr Manhattan the "common enemy" of the US and the Soviets

(3) to a lesser extent, VASTLY shrinking the scale and detail of Ozymandias' presence, essentially removing him from the narrative for 75% of the movie
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Audioman213
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:37 pm to
Battle LA
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:46 pm to
Cloud Atlas
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:38 pm to
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(2) making Dr Manhattan the "common enemy" of the US and the Soviets


To be honest if I made the film, I probably would have done that as well. The squid is just too weird and the fact that only Moscow and New York were hit... it’s odd. For aliens wouldn’t they attack either more cities or more populated cities? It would seem odd that no city within this circle would be attacked if they were simply outsiders. It solves both of those issues if Dr Manhattan attacks the cities and does more of them.

This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 8:39 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:39 pm to
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(1) the scoring and direction of the Nite Owl II-Silk Spectre II sex scene

It was awkward and kind of uncomfortable. It was more or less the same in the graphic novel. The use of Leonard Cohen’s version of that song was particularly grating but it didn’t ruin the movie for me.

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2) making Dr Manhattan the "common enemy" of the US and the Soviets

(3) to a lesser extent, VASTLY shrinking the scale and detail of Ozymandias' presence, essentially removing him from the narrative for 75% of the movie


Manhattan was the more realistic fill in for the plot device used in the graphic novel, I imagine in some part because it was easier to film while in others because it wasn’t as jarring without making a two part, five hour film. In a lot of ways, I actually thought it was a clever improvement even if the HBO series did a pretty solid job of conveying the original vision of the incident from the novel.

Ozymandias’ relative absence in the movie seemed, again, to be the result of needing an entire mini series or multiple movies to actually portray and have a pay off for the portrayal akin to the novel. Plus, it made sense in the context of the film medium to make what was essentially the villain a more minor part of the movie until the end; there was just a lot more to focus on and it added punch to the reveal of his actual powers which went beyond mere super-intelligence (speed, reflexes, strength).

All in all, an audience reading the graphic novel is going to inherently suspend some disbelief when a giant squid monster shows up (also, they’re going to know who Alan Moore is and be much more accepting of any ideas he presents). By comparison, turning Dr. Manhattan into society’s Public Enemy #1 in the film was much more palatable for a wider audience that may not be as familiar with the source material.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:46 pm to
Over/under 10 years before OML goes IRL with his rape/sexual abuse fanfic.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108972 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 8:48 pm to
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Over/under 10 years before OML goes IRL with his rape/sexual abuse fanfic.


I mean, I think I only thought that the Mountain was going to rape and murder Ellaria Sands daughter in front of her and then rape Ellaria after that. That’s not my fantasy, but the Fat Man’s.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:33 pm to
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Manhattan was the more realistic fill in for the plot device used in the graphic novel


It's just so dumb to me. What are they going to do? Everyone, but especially the Americans, knows that Dr Manhattan exists outside of space and time. That his godlike powers would allow him to incinerate entire armies with a mere thought. There is no plan of attack or defense. There is no plan of escape. If he is targeting humans, humans are extinct.

The threat had to be something humans could conceivably defend themselves against or, with persuasion, escape to the stars and avoid. It's only important that the world knows Manhattan won't be there to do it for them.

I thought the sex scene in the comic worked because it was 2 pathetic people reaching out in a desperate moment for connection. The movie read as 2 noble but damaged people reaching out, pathetically, for connection. The song was ridiculous.

As for Adrian, it shouldn't be a surprise that Veidt is the villain, it's that his plan succeeds without interruption. But I think it's crucial that we see his machinations all along, that we see the ads for Nostalgia vs Millennium (that get referenced by characters), and that layer was missing from the film - he wasn't *present* when he was offscreen.
Posted by Yancy turnip
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:53 pm to
Dumb and dumber to
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Posted by SpringBokCock
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:27 pm to
Pearl Harbor
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 4:18 am to
Serenity with Matthew Mcconaughey.






Damn I was pumped for this one. A fishing guide who lives on a tropical island and is sleeping with Diane Lane. Hell yea



It was terrible. Damnit

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 4:34 am to
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The Last Jedi's trailer had me PUMPED.


Not gonna lie, and I'm sure people will accuse me of "hindsight bias," but that trailer raised some red flags for me. I wasn't nearly as pumped by it as others were.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:28 am to
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Damn I was pumped for this one. A fishing guide who lives on a tropical island and is sleeping with Diane Lane. Hell yea


That’s a good one. I was pumped for a psychological mind bending thriller based on the trailer. Thankfully never saw it. I waited. And boy did just about every reviewer from critic to audience torch this movie.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:22 am to
Coming2America
Posted by bigfatpimp
st. gabriel
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:50 am to
Alita.

First trailer one of the best I've ever seen. Movie was meh.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:11 am to
Superman Returns

We hadn’t had a Superman movie in decades so we really hadn’t seen Superman flying with modern effects. Batman Begins was fresh on everyone’s minds. The teaser with John William’s Krypton playing with Brando’s voiceover was amazing. Felt like we going to get an epic movie.

The movie ended up being a boring mess with most of the main plot left on the cutting room floor.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 10:15 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:36 am to
Haven’t seen this one mentioned, but The Last Airbender teaser is better than any scene in the actual film. I was pumped with the teaser thinking that was going to be a scene in movie, but nope. Nothing anywhere near as exciting as that teaser: YouTube
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:36 am to
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That’s a good one. I was pumped for a psychological mind bending thriller based on the trailer. Thankfully never saw it. I waited. And boy did just about every reviewer from critic to audience torch this movie.



The cast is fantastic. How can that many good actors make such a bad movie.


Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 10:43 am to
The New World with Colin Farrell is what I always think of when this thread comes up. The trailer made it look like it was going to be another Legends of the Fall, then when I saw it in the theatre I kept waiting on something to happen, nothing ever did, it was the most boring movie I think I've ever seen
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7523 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:48 pm to
The Remake of Total Recall 2012

How could you go wrong with Jessica Biel and Kate Beckinsale?


It was a complete shite-show.
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