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Movie that goes against your beliefs but you still enjoyed?
Posted on 1/4/10 at 8:53 am
Posted on 1/4/10 at 8:53 am
The 'city of men' comment I made in the 'overrated films' got me to thinking about this.
Let me explain; have you ever enjoyed a movie immensely that goes completely against what you believe either politically, morally or religiously?
I'll start: I absolutely loved "Dancer in the Dark" (with Bjork) which is about the most anti-capitalism/pro socialism movie ever. Its about as subtle as a 100 pound concrete brick being dropped onto your head.
Yet...I love this movie. I love the soundtrack..I love what a freak Bjork plays (methinks she's not really acting) and the atmosphere was excellent. This is a musical (of sorts) but for some reason I have to dig this thing out every so often & watch it again.
Its very artistic in a way that most of the blatant propoganda hollywood shoves down our throat to chastise us for not caring about global warming or the holocaust or helping the poor black people can't possible match.
What's your guilty pleasure?
Let me explain; have you ever enjoyed a movie immensely that goes completely against what you believe either politically, morally or religiously?
I'll start: I absolutely loved "Dancer in the Dark" (with Bjork) which is about the most anti-capitalism/pro socialism movie ever. Its about as subtle as a 100 pound concrete brick being dropped onto your head.
Yet...I love this movie. I love the soundtrack..I love what a freak Bjork plays (methinks she's not really acting) and the atmosphere was excellent. This is a musical (of sorts) but for some reason I have to dig this thing out every so often & watch it again.
Its very artistic in a way that most of the blatant propoganda hollywood shoves down our throat to chastise us for not caring about global warming or the holocaust or helping the poor black people can't possible match.
What's your guilty pleasure?
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:03 am to CAD703X
Spartacus.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:07 am to Lacour
quote:
Oreo porn
that didnt take long
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:12 am to CAD703X
For real though, I thought Milk was a good film.
This post was edited on 1/4/10 at 9:13 am
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:18 am to Lacour
i consider myself somewhat nihilistic and politically apathetic, so I guess any movie that takes a stance stands in difference to what I (don't) believe.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:25 am to Leauxgan
The political commentary of V for Vendetta is infantile at best, but I really like the movie. And the idea of a terrorist plot is the best way to overthrow facism is also silly, especially the way he tortures Natalie Portman.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:29 am to Baloo
quote:Was going to post this as well. Loved the movie, but had sort of an uneasy feeling about it
V for Vendetta
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:29 am to Baloo
I liked "V for Vendetta" as well, although I think many people are confused regarding it's political message.
There are some movies that I don't agree with politically that I enjoy watching. My biggest problem with political movies, though, isn't the message behind it but rather how the director often focuses so much on the political message that the actual story suffers.
There are some movies that I don't agree with politically that I enjoy watching. My biggest problem with political movies, though, isn't the message behind it but rather how the director often focuses so much on the political message that the actual story suffers.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:41 am to Antonio Moss
One of the best scenes and tracks from Dancer:
LINK
The premise is she's going blind.
eta i still get chills watching this. i love bjork.
LINK
The premise is she's going blind.
eta i still get chills watching this. i love bjork.
This post was edited on 1/4/10 at 9:43 am
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:46 am to CAD703X
A league of their own
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:51 am to CAD703X
quote:
"Dancer in the Dark"
one of my favs
but I don't intend to watch it for a long, long time due to how it made me feel at the very end
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:53 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
There are some movies that I don't agree with politically that I enjoy watching. My biggest problem with political movies, though, isn't the message behind it but rather how the director often focuses so much on the political message that the actual story suffers.
Pretty much why I don't like them irregardless of whether or not I agree with them politically. For instance with a movie I pretty much march lock step with politically, Blood Diamond could have been a great movie but they were so concerned with showing that conflict diamonds and child soldiers are bad (no fricking shite) that what was an interesting setting and actually fairly entertaining plot were bogged down with unnecessary montages and an unsatisfying ending outside of Sierra Leone.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:56 am to glaucon
Dude, Blood Diamond was awesome.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 9:57 am to Lacour
quote:
Dude, Blood Diamond was awesome.
I didn't say I didn't like it. I said that is could have been better if it didn't feel that it needed to give a "message" and just told its story.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:02 am to CAD703X
I always enjoy when a thread on this board is started with some actual original substance. For me, it would have to be Robert Bresson's films such as Diary of a Country Priest and Au Hasard Balthazar. Also I think The Decalogue by Kieslowski is one of the greatest to happen to cinema ever.
I'm not really a religious guy but he tells these religious fables that are really deep and affectionate.
I'm not really a religious guy but he tells these religious fables that are really deep and affectionate.
This post was edited on 1/4/10 at 10:05 am
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:17 am to Turkey Burger
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Also I think The Decalogue by Kieslowski is one of the greatest to happen to cinema ever.
that was pretty intense..i was hooked after the one with boy who fell through the ice.
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:18 am to CAD703X
Triumph of the will
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:18 am to Leauxgan
quote:
but I don't intend to watch it for a long, long time due to how it made me feel at the very end
no kidding. this movie was intense..the scene with bjork and david morse and the gun stuck out with me..
you guys who haven't seen this movie owe it to yourselves to give it a shot.
This post was edited on 1/4/10 at 10:19 am
Posted on 1/4/10 at 10:54 am to CAD703X
I'd have to say Dancer In the Dark and Lilya 4-Ever are the two most depressing movies ever made.
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