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re: Mad Men Season 7 Episode 4 "The Monolith"
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:55 pm to Zamoro10
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:55 pm to Zamoro10
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Her coming back around to be in charge of Don and her uneasiness about it is great. She doesn't owe Don anything anymore...after he took some of her work for his own benefit...and their Mentor/Mentee struggles...
I assume you are referring to glo coat. Peggys idea was a kid in a dark closet. Don made it into a usable award winning ad. Her job was to give him kernels and he turns the kernels into ads. He gives her money she gives him ideas. Just like his job is now to give her taglines. I guarantee she wont be thanking and crediting him. Peggy always thinks its all about her and poor pitiful peggy. Cry me a river.
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Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:08 pm to Adam Banks
Peggy's anger with Don stems from her belief that Don has intentionally sabotaged her relationship with Ted. First there was St. Joseph aspirin, where Peggy had come up with a great concept, but would be like 3+x the budget. Ted, thinking with the little head, indulged her and to save the client, Don ended up "stealing" the work by giving credit to Ted's dead former partner. Second, Peggy believes Don manipulated Ted to Cal, instead of what actually happened.
As far as reconciliation goes, Don must win the "game." If Peggy is on top, she will never forgive and forget. While Don is a man of his times, he values talent over all else. It's why he gave her a career in true man's world. If he feels he needs her, he would accommodate.
While I can empathize to a certain extent, I feel that Peggy's behavior has been atrocious given what Don has done for her. Right now I would prefer for Don not to need her and he leaves behind to stay in a place that will never fully appreciate her.
As far as reconciliation goes, Don must win the "game." If Peggy is on top, she will never forgive and forget. While Don is a man of his times, he values talent over all else. It's why he gave her a career in true man's world. If he feels he needs her, he would accommodate.
While I can empathize to a certain extent, I feel that Peggy's behavior has been atrocious given what Don has done for her. Right now I would prefer for Don not to need her and he leaves behind to stay in a place that will never fully appreciate her.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:14 pm to Indiana Tiger
I can honestly say as a woman, her behavior has been grating at best since Don returned. And I generally like Peggy as a character. I think what makes it worse is knowing it's a lot less about Don and more so about Don interfering in her affair with Ted.
I'd had hoped at this point in the series that she would be heady enough a year later to realize that Don actually saved her a whole lot of grief and potentially shite-canning her career over a married man.
Hell she had a far more in depth affair with Pete at a time when she was a shell of what she is now and got over it quicker than she did this stuff with Ted. The moment where she had enough sense to turn down Pete and tell him she had his child, was one of my Top 10 on the show. I desperately want her to grow a sack right now. I feel like she's almost digressed in that regard and it's a little disappointing.
I'd had hoped at this point in the series that she would be heady enough a year later to realize that Don actually saved her a whole lot of grief and potentially shite-canning her career over a married man.
Hell she had a far more in depth affair with Pete at a time when she was a shell of what she is now and got over it quicker than she did this stuff with Ted. The moment where she had enough sense to turn down Pete and tell him she had his child, was one of my Top 10 on the show. I desperately want her to grow a sack right now. I feel like she's almost digressed in that regard and it's a little disappointing.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:40 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I'd had hoped at this point in the series that she would be heady enough a year later to realize that Don actually saved her a whole lot of grief and potentially shite-canning her career over a married man.
It hasn't been a year since the Ted thing though. The fiasco in the S6 finale was the week of Thanksgiving. We picked up this season in mid-January. The most recent episode was in April I believe. That isn't that long to forgive someone for what she believes pretty much ruined her life.
The first two episodes (so only a couple months after everything happened) she was unbearable. She really wasn't as bad this week. Losing what you believe to be the love of your life, having your friend/mentor betray you, and then having to work under a guy like Lou Avery who hates everything Peggy stands for would be enough to make pretty much anyone miserable.
She'll turn it around. I'm pretty confident in that.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:48 pm to DallasTiger11
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That isn't that long to forgive someone for what she believes pretty much ruined her life.
Eh, ruined her life would've been letting her stay with Ted. Like I said, I hoped she'd be heady enough to figure that out by now given her previous experience with Pete (which is what I'm predicating my opinion on at this point).
I don't blame her for being angry, she's just been overboard at this point.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:16 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Eh, ruined her life would've been letting her stay with Ted.
I agree, but she doesn't know that which is why she's acting the way she is. I still don't think Pete was as important and serious to her as Ted was. She's also much older now than she was with Pete, and that effects her more.
She has been overboard, but hopefully it's shifting. She wasn't near as unbearable on Sunday as the previous episodes. Joan has been far worse with way less of a legitimate reason than Peggy. Joan has just been plain selfish.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:32 pm to Zamoro10
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everyone else was afraid of Don and they pawned him off on her..
I think only Lou was afraid of Don.
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