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Justice League FTW, Avengers Crap?

Posted on 11/21/11 at 3:12 am
Posted by LsuLunarious
Heaven
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 3:12 am
I'm having a feeling that Avengers will turn out to be crap when its made, boring, and dull. Most of the heroes in the Avengers had pretty shitty movies. I'm not sure if anyone will agree with me but think about it.

Avengers;
Thor
Captain America
Iron Man
The Hulk(Edward Norton was replaced)
Hawkeye

It appears the Avengers are gearing up to be pretty damn boring movie.

Justice League:

The Batman(Christian Bale hopefully still being Batman after Nolan's TDKR)
Green Lantern(Hopefully they allow a Black Green Lantern to play in the Justice League movie instead of Ryan Renolds)
Superman
The Flash
Martian
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
Martian Manhunter

I know its a bit early but when I saw the movies that were made for the Avengers and actor lineup it almost appeared that the movie itself might just be shite.
Posted by Cam71090
Member since Mar 2010
1486 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 3:21 am to
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Hopefully they allow a Black Green Lantern to play in the Justice League movie


Why would they do that?
Posted by LsuLunarious
Heaven
Member since Nov 2011
206 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 3:38 am to
quote:

Hopefully they allow a Black Green Lantern to play in the Justice League movie


Why would they do that?



Because the Black Lantern is a lot better than the White One. (Not Trying to be racist, but its just fact.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8599 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:23 am to
quote:

Because the Black Lantern is a lot better than the White One. (Not Trying to be racist, but its just fact.



Dunno about fact, but I'd agree with you. I think the green lantern movie would have been much better with John Stewart as the green lantern and having someone like Common play him.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158770 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:49 am to
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Because the Black Lantern is a lot better than the White One


He may be more athletic, but the white one has a better motor and is much more of a cerebral hero.
Posted by NewGuy01
Internet
Member since Nov 2008
4243 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Because the Black Lantern is a lot better than the White One. (Not Trying to be racist, but its just fact.)



Lulz. John's run with Hal Jordan is Green Lantern's peak.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23323 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:10 am to
quote:

I know its a bit early but when I saw the movies that were made for the Avengers and actor lineup it almost appeared that the movie itself might just be shite.


So u are going on past movies? So the superman with Kevin spacey and the green lantern were absolute crap and other than Batman your argument holds no water. You really want to go here? IMHO all of the movies that have been made in connection to the avengers have been far superior to any DC comic movie with the exception of two batman movies. You'd be hardpressed to find anyone who disagrees.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36071 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:00 am to
This is turning into a JJ vs Lee thread.
Posted by Augustus
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2006
8290 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

He may be more athletic, but the white one has a better motor and is much more of a cerebral hero.

Well played.
Posted by Truculent Typist
Member since Jan 2010
2763 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Most of the heroes in the Avengers had pretty shitty movies.
The frick?

Thor - Good
Captain America - Good
Iron Man - Great
Iron Man 2 - Good/Great
The Hulk - Average/Good
Posted by LsuLunarious
Heaven
Member since Nov 2011
206 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:02 pm to
quote:


So u are going on past movies? So the superman with Kevin spacey and the green lantern were absolute crap and other than Batman your argument holds no water. You really want to go here? IMHO all of the movies that have been made in connection to the avengers have been far superior to any DC comic movie with the exception of two batman movies. You'd be hardpressed to find anyone who disagrees.


Most of the Justice League movies haven't hit theaters just yet, and if we go off the comic, DC owns still. Batman was good, I can bet that the others will turn out to be hits as well. I don't see what you mean "Far Superior to any DC comic Movie" are you talking about the movies that were made in the 90s? When all the movies for the DC League is remade, then you can say such a thing.
Posted by LsuLunarious
Heaven
Member since Nov 2011
206 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:11 pm to
quote:


Thor - Good
Captain America - Good
Iron Man - Great
Iron Man 2 - Good/Great
The Hulk - Average/Good



Avengers:
Thor was Good? = 77% on Rotten Tomatoes
Captain America = 78%
Iron Man= 74%
The Hulk (With Edward Norton)=66% but Edward Norton isn't in this movie.

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The Dark Knight= 94% on Rotten Tomatoes
Superma(1978)=94%

If I compared more justice league movies I'd make the Avengers movies look like shite.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37302 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Avengers;
Thor
Captain America
Iron Man
The Hulk(Edward Norton was replaced)
Hawkeye


All fairly good movies with Iron Man and Captain America borderline great. What Marvel has done is build a pretty good franchise ahead. They were COMMITTED to world building, which is the only way to go about this.

As it stands, Batman and GL are so far part in style and tone, it would never work.

quote:

The Batman - Bale would never work, neither would Nolan's style. Not in the kind of giant film this would have to be.
Green Lantern - Sucked. Not completely terrible, but bad enough.
Superman - Singer's Superman? Worse than Green Lantern. New Superman... yet to be seen.
The Flash - Deserves his own damn film
Wonder Woman - Did you ever see the stuff from the never released NBC show? Awful. WW cannot work in our PC environment. The changes to the character were insulting to her legacy. ONLY because people try to pigeonhole her.
Aquaman - Would also make a good film
Martian Manhunter - Not sure if he could support his own film
Posted by LsuLunarious
Heaven
Member since Nov 2011
206 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

quote:
Avengers;
Thor
Captain America
Iron Man
The Hulk(Edward Norton was replaced)
Hawkeye


All fairly good movies with Iron Man and Captain America borderline great. What Marvel has done is build a pretty good franchise ahead. They were COMMITTED to world building, which is the only way to go about this.

As it stands, Batman and GL are so far part in style and tone, it would never work.

quote:
The Batman - Bale would never work, neither would Nolan's style. Not in the kind of giant film this would have to be.
Green Lantern - Sucked. Not completely terrible, but bad enough.
Superman - Singer's Superman? Worse than Green Lantern. New Superman... yet to be seen.
The Flash - Deserves his own damn film
Wonder Woman - Did you ever see the stuff from the never released NBC show? Awful. WW cannot work in our PC environment. The changes to the character were insulting to her legacy. ONLY because people try to pigeonhole her.
Aquaman - Would also make a good film
Martian Manhunter - Not sure if he could support his own film


I want them to recast the damn GL already, Ryan Reynolds trashed it.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37302 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

I want them to recast the damn GL already, Ryan Reynolds trashed it.


Actually Reynolds wasn't bad, but the movie's style and writing was terrible.

Stewart would be awesome as would Raynor or Gardner. Hell, they need a Corps movie in and of itself. But JL might be TOO big to support a film. Avengers has just the right size of team.
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3381 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:19 pm to
Have you seen any of the Marvel movies or just going by RT ratings?
Posted by LsuLunarious
Heaven
Member since Nov 2011
206 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Have you seen any of the Marvel movies or just going by RT ratings?


I saw them all so far, Captain America was pretty boring, Thor could've been better, Edward Norton shouldn't have been removed from the Hulk Role, he was a solid character.

Imagine putting these guys all in the same room without the super powers but just with their acting abilities? Maybe then you might see how boring it could just be.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 3:12 pm to
JERRY: (cont) and this whole justice league, Batman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman. You mean to tell me Superman can't cover everything?
FULTON: (still laughing and coughing) Stop.
JERRY: For crying out loud, He's Superman. (Fulton stops laughing, Jerry's face is stunned) Fulton? (looks at him) Fulton?
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3381 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 3:37 pm to
So you're saying Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans suck as actors? You haven't even seen Mark Ruffalo play Banner yet to have an opinion and he's a pretty good actor.
Posted by Murtagh
Metairie, La
Member since Feb 2008
2044 posts
Posted on 11/21/11 at 4:51 pm to
It all comes down to story lines and directors.

Which superman would you rather? Donner or Singer?

The story lines for the marvel movies have been decent, some bordering on good/great.

Using anything Josh Whedon touches turns to gold. I can't wait to see what he does with the movie.
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