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Is Superman (1978) still the gold standard for how to do opening credits...

Posted on 1/8/21 at 6:28 am
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 6:28 am
In a comic book film?

I don't think there has ever been a better intro into a comic book film than that credits sequence. The legendary score provided by John Williams just makes it. I've also always gotten a big kick out of how Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman are credited before the main title and how Christopher Reeve, who plays the film's title character, doesn't get listed until after the main title flies by.

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Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 6:52 am to
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The legendary score provided by John Williams just makes it.

That can be said about a lot of movies. Williams is awesome.
Posted by Muthsera
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 6:54 am to
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I don't think there has ever been a better intro into a comic book film than that credits sequence.


Scott Pilgrim vs the World
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:09 am to
2001 was pretty strong
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:10 am to
Barbarella, chach.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:47 am to
Yeah Brando is in the movie for like 2 minutes and he gets top billing while the main characters are way down the line. Reeve and Kidder were not that well known.

This was basically the first Superhero movie, nobody knew how it would play.

Putting star power names up front gave it cache probably to the studios.

It was still the 70s and Brando was still a big name. Him and Hackman brought the movie credence as both were major stars in the 70s...with Godfather of course and The Conversation and The French Connection.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 7:49 am
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:23 am to
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Yeah Brando is in the movie for like 2 minutes and he gets top billing while the main characters are way down the line. Reeve and Kidder were not that well known.

This was basically the first Superhero movie, nobody knew how it would play.

Putting star power names up front gave it cache probably to the studios.

It was still the 70s and Brando was still a big name. Him and Hackman brought the movie credence as both were major stars in the 70s...with Godfather of course and The Conversation and The French Connection.


Reading about the making of that film and its sequel is like taking a stroll down batshit ave. It was absurd.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:26 am to
Spider-Man 2, with the recap of the fist movie/origin.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:56 am to
Love hearing Donner talk about hearing that music for the first time, and immediately realizing that Williams had created a cadence that evoked the three syllables in "Superman" and made you subconsciously think of the name throughout the song.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:51 am to
Tone-wise, the Superman March is perfect. The opening credits which came out the year after Star Wars, made you feel like you were going to see something otherworldly to a degree, and we did.

Aside from Superman '78, I would point to Snyder's Watchmen movie and the Deadpool movies for getting it right from jump.

Certainly, nostalgia plays a big part for me in this discussion, but Batman '89's opening absolutely set the tone that this was not going to be Adam West and Burt Ward. It was dark, the music was a vast departure from anything we had heard in a "superhero" movie, and when you finally realized that we were traversing the Bat Symbol in that sequence, it felt like you were about to be led on the start of a journey. It didn't make you want to run through a brick wall like Superman '78, but it was appropriate.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:45 am to
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Love hearing Donner talk about hearing that music for the first time, and immediately realizing that Williams had created a cadence that evoked the three syllables in "Superman" and made you subconsciously think of the name throughout the song.


Growing up, almost every kid who was a fan of the movie would sing or hum the theme song like "duh duhduhduh duh duh duuuuh duh duhduh dudh SUPERMANNNNNN!"
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:52 am to
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quote:

The legendary score provided by John Williams just makes it.



That can be said about a lot of movies. Williams is awesome.


I was watching that Movies that Made Us series on Netflix and learned that John Williams wasn't the original pick to do the score for Home Alone. It was supposed to be Bruce Broughton but he got caught up doing The Rescuers Down Under and had to drop out. WHie trying to figure out who they could replace him with they made a joke about getting John Williams but never thought it could happen b/c the movie was so low budget. But since Columbus was friends with Spielberg they got a screening set up, Williams loved the movie, and then he turned in one of the most iconic Christmas scores ever made. Even though Broughton is a solid composer in his own right I don't have any idea how Home Alone would be anywhere near as good without Williams doing the score.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 10:54 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 10:57 am to
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The Rescuers Down Under

Underrated Disney film.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 11:04 am to
I could have done without the kid and the comic book-not needed. Rest = fantastic.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 11:11 am to
I'll give Zack Snyder some props here. The openings to BvS and Watchmen are very good.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 11:11 am to
Are you talking about movies that focus mainly on the opening score or just opening credits in general because Raider of the Lost Ark is pretty Amazing to no have that strong opening score
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 1:30 pm to
HATED it as a kid.

i was sitting there with my popcorn all ready for the action to start and those fricking blue flashy credits kept going..and going...and going...i was like WTF..start the damn movie already!!
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 1:34 pm to
The shitty Wolverine movie had an excellent intro. Best part of it actually.
Posted by TigerBandB8
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 1:37 pm to
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The shitty Wolverine movie had an excellent intro.


Please be more specific. Which Wolverine movie
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 1:37 pm to


Origins I think
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