Interesting video on Rey and the devolution of female characters in general

I’m also subscribed to his channel, Disney should hire him to at write the scripts for all SW movies, or at least outlines.

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A really good H.S. men's basketball team would beat the National Champion UCONN Huskies easily and women can't fight for shite unless they are cyborg and pumped full of testosterone.

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You aren't going to start posting about how you are an "InCel" and all the women need to die because they aren't willing to have sex with you right?

It is a fantasy. I can buy a woman hero with flaws as easily as I can buy a male hero with flaws. Give me a good movie and a good story and I can buy whatever they put up there.

And yes... I think the new Star Wars trilogy is garbage. I would have thought it was garbage if the lead actor was Hugh McBallsdraggy.

A movie can be garbage and not feature any SJW stereotypes. And a movie can be garbage and be littered with them.

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You're afraid for her, you truly care about what happens to her but you really don't know if she can pull this off because the movie hasn't presented her as some kind of Superhero." - On Ripley in Aliens

Sums it up perfectly and modern cinema with women kung fu MMA kicking the crap out of muscled guys is just as to blame. Just look at that Charlize Theron movie Atomic Blonde.

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This is so spot on. Aliens Ripley should be the architype female "heroes" are based on now.

Why is that that film is such a hit with males? It's because we didn't see it as some kind of fantasy or something impossible by a female. She had experience, guile, and intelligence and braveryz but it was obvious she was terrified and her phycial traits weren't embellished for the sake of it.

I also always thought Sandahl Bergman in Conan was a great portrayal of a great female action movie hero, too.

First off, she was actually athletically built, and not a rail thin actress a la Theron, plus she used small swords, thievery techniques, and a bow and arrow to do her damage. She didn't overpower any of the brutes in that movie at all.

And third, she showed great vulnerability. All she wanted was to be a woman to Conan and leave the life of crime and killing and brutality.

And no one batted an eye at how she was portrayed. No one cared and even though that's one of the most testosterone filled movie ever she fit in perfect.

Why does Wonder Woman work?

I think a better question would be to ask the differences between the recent WW and the WW portrayed by Linda Carter. I can't speak for any differences/similarities cause Carter was way before my time but anyone who has seen both could attribute to this discussion.

I'm gonna say that the typical female protagonists that are considered superheroes aren't really a good example to work with for this topic. The main issue I hate seeing is female characters who are basically human in every regard with the given positive/negative attributes of human, being given unrealistic buffs for the sake of social justice/agenda.

Just like effects during the 70s and 80s, being practical is a good trait for male and female characters in general, as it makes them realistic and reasonable, while forced to acknowledge their weaknesses and overcome using environment or their wits. Of course this is not the view of the league of justice warriors.

Atomic Blonde walked the line extremely carefully IMO. While realistically she would likely meet her demise in her 1v1 with the russians(Slav Jon Hamm especially after being exhausted engaging multiple foes earlier), the movie made it a point to show her in a long, painful fight when 1v1'ing in which the only way she really overcomes is by using environment to her advantage(pans, hoses, plates, etc). It also made a point to have her body get super fricked up with bruises, etc which is rarely seen in the "modern portrayal" of broads in action movies

"Sums it up perfectly and modern cinema with women kung fu MMA kicking the crap out of muscled guys is just as to blame. Just look at that Charlize Theron movie Atomic Blonde. "

I had some massive eye rolling moments watching tiny Charlize with hands the size of a 10 year old knocking out 6'2" dudes with ease. It really ruined the movie. I don't care how hard she supposedly could throw a punch there simply isn't enough mass behind it to do any damage.

As to Rey, it's obvious that this whole "the force is female" b.s. was a ploy to increase market share amongst women. They didn't expect the real SW fanbase to expect an actual decent story. They thought all of the SW fans were just a bunch of sheep they could lead around by the nose. And I don't think they managed to materially increase their female fanbase, either. It really was just an incompetent execution by Disney and they ruined a lot of characters that I grew up loving in the process.

And the new WW is garbage.

I really enjoyed the video, but he's completely ignoring the vitriolic political scene. I think Wonder Woman was closer to the character he's describing. They had her unlock her ultimate power over the death of a heroic man for instance, and plenty of people STILL shite on the movie and claimed it got great reviews because it was a female comic book film.

In short, he's telling half the story. Our very contentious political climate right now from both sides is the other half, and there's very little Hollywood can do about that.

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"You're afraid for her, you truly care about what happens to her but you really don't know if she can pull this off because the movie hasn't presented her as some kind of Superhero." - On Ripley in Aliens

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Spot on.

A hero that never seems to believably be in danger is dull and uninteresting. You aren't worried abour their safety because THEY aren't worried about their safety.

This is why I never really liked Peirs Brosnan as Bond. He's TOO cool. He never breaks a sweat. He can be huddled down in the back of a car, driving it like a rally car champion from his smart phone, while thousands of rounds are pummeling the car and he isn't the slightest bit scared. He's emotionless.

Compare that to Daniel Craig's Bond. His emotions are more evident, especially in Casino Royale. Hell, he almost dies from poison and looks like it!

It's also why John McClain from Die Hard is a more interesting character than John Rambo for me. Rambo is SO badass that he just moves like a machine from kill to kill. Sure, he shows some anger, and he's a very badass and likeable hero.

But McClain is an "everyman" scared shitless and letting you know it the whole time. His triumph's over his fear and adversity MEAN MORE than all the kills that Rambo flawlessly performs.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Rambo films and character. But for me, I rank Die Hard above them.