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re: If these movies were released in the same year, which wins Best Picture Oscar?

Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:49 am to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:49 am to
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It won almost every award it was up for. It was an Oscar juggernaut.

So did Gravity this year...yet...
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:51 am to
BTW - everyone answering Crash is high on crack. Crash was widely seen as a terrible choice even at the time, the result of an exceedingly weak year of Oscar contenders and the old guard coalescing around some film, any film, other than Brokeback. I don't think Crash wins against any other Oscar winner ever. It only won 3 Oscars which is light for a Best Picture winner.

Given any other decent choice, I think the Academy clearly votes for something other than Crash.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:51 am to
Saving Private Ryan


Oh wait, never mind.
Posted by bluestem75
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:52 am to
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So did Gravity this year...yet...


which is why they really f-ed up this year. On that note, however, Cabaret won 8 in 1972 and The Godfather only won 3.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:54 am to
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So did Gravity this year...yet...

sure -- Music, Sound Mix, Sound Edit, and Visual Effects were four of 'em. OK, it won editing, cinematography, and director which are major awards, but it's wins reeked of "accomplished technical film". It didn't win any actor wards, and was only up for one. It's screenplay wasn't even nominated, so you know it lost two fairly large voting blocks right off the bat: writers and actors.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:57 am to
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but it's wins reeked of "accomplished technical film".

titanic was this + accomplished costume/set design

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It didn't win any actor wards

titanic didn't either and it's writing didn't win anything, either
Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:57 am to
I would like to think Gladiator.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:58 am to
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Music


NOT a technical award. I'm so tired of hearing this argument. The Academy clearly thought this was the BP of the year. It wasn't even close.

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It didn't win any actor wards, and was only up for one. It's screenplay wasn't even nominated, so you know it lost two fairly large voting blocks right off the bat: writers and actors.


It won 7 out of 10. The BP winner won 3 of 9 losing four major categories.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 10:58 am to
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Dances With Wolves
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:00 am to
I'm wondering what it was about Titanic that made it such a huge winner. It kind of seems like it was a big deal for its technical accomplishments in a similar fashion as Gravity. Those special effects were a pretty big deal back then.

I looked up some of the other films that it went up against that year for a point of reference. Good Will Hunting, L.A. Confidential, The Full Monty, As Good as It Gets.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:03 am to
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Dances With Wolves
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:03 am to
Whichever one has the most PC agenda.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:04 am to
historical setting + amazing effects + love story + celebrating a "good" movie making so much money. just a ton of overall momentum

people forget it often now, but before its release it was seen as an impending super bust of a movie that went way over budget and had no audience. it didn't even open that well, but it charged through and just kept rolling week after week

it's financial success was kind of a throwback to the old school, instead of SUPER opening weekend with a dramatic fall, only to be out of theaters in a month. the academy gave it the respect
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:05 am to
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the result of an exceedingly weak year of Oscar contenders and the old guard coalescing around some film,

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1997 Best Picture Nominees

Titanic
As Good as It Gets
Good Will Hunting
L.A. Confidential
The Full Monty


meh

Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:09 am to
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which part? where rose's fat arse let's jack die or where old rose selfish arse throws that big arse jewel in the ocean?
Both.

That selfish bitch didn't deserve to live.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:10 am to
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I looked up some of the other films that it went up against that year for a point of reference. Good Will Hunting, L.A. Confidential, The Full Monty, As Good as It Gets.

Gladiator had weak arse competition too.
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Gladiator
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Erin Brockovich
Traffic
Chocolat
Posted by mylsuhat
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:11 am to
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Gladiator
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:11 am to
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Gladiator
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Erin Brockovich
Traffic
Chocolat


jesus

that's as weak as it gets

eta I hated CTHD fwiw. I don't understand the love for that movie.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 11:13 am
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:13 am to
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that's as weak as it gets

Nope, the year Crash won was the lowest I think.
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Brokeback Mountain
Crash
Munich
Good Night, and Good Luck
Capote


ETA: also the year The Departed won.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 11:15 am
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 11:21 am to
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historical setting + amazing effects + love story + celebrating a "good" movie making so much money. just a ton of overall momentum


I'm thinking the money part had to be maybe the biggest part of it. For how much money that it made, it would have been a marketing nightmare if it wasn't at least nominated for a bunch of awards for the sake of legitimacy.
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 11:22 am
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