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I watched Oldboy for the first time last night...

Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:44 pm
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:44 pm
Holy shite, what a film. That's a Grade-A thriller with several marvelous twists. It's been quite some time since I watched something so captivating and brilliant.

Are the other two films from the Park Chan-wook Vengeance Trilogy just as good?
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:48 pm to
yep. great soundtrack too. make sure you skip teh remake though


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Are the other two films from the Park Chan-wook Vengeance Trilogy just as good?


no, but they are good
Posted by JombieZombie
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 2:48 pm to
They're worth watching but underwhelming compared to Oldboy.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 3:14 pm to
It's maybe the best made film that I have ever seen. Just a work of art.

Netflix has several good Korean flicks right now: The Man from Nowhere, I saw the Devil, and the Host. They are not as good, but I thought they were enjoyable. I Saw the Devil was my favorite of those. fricked up tale of vengeance. The Man from Nowhere is more of a straight action flick though still fairly fricked up. The Host is just a goofy monster flick that shouldn't be taken very seriously.
This post was edited on 8/9/16 at 4:00 pm
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 3:29 pm to
Movie is nuts.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 3:43 pm to
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yep. great soundtrack too. make sure you skip teh remake though


After watching the film last night, I did some research about various interpretations of the ending. What I quickly discovered was just how shitty the Spike Lee remake is.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 3:50 pm to
i havent even seen the remake. i watched the hammer scene and knew that it was a pile of shite
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 4:41 pm to
How did the remake fail, if you don't mind? I haven't made it a priority to watch, and I probably won't.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 4:50 pm to
I've seen the remake and honestly didn't mind it compared to the original. I think a lot of the hate is that people just don't like remakes.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 4:54 pm to
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How did the remake fail, if you don't mind? I haven't made it a priority to watch, and I probably won't.


The most common criticisms I read involved how watered-down and pointless the remake was. It wasn't nearly as provocative or captivating as the original, and I think they even tweaked a couple of key plot points to make it palatable for American audiences.

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Film.com David Ehrlich

A slumming Spike Lee is still better than most directors at the top of their game, but Oldboy isn't just Lee's worst movie, it's practically his “Wicker Man”.


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New York Post Lou Lumenick

The feel-bad movie of the holiday season, Spike Lee's often-repellent Americanized reimagining of Korean director Chan-Wook Park's twisty 2004 revenge thriller Oldboy is relentlessly gruesome, self-consciously shocking and pretty much pointless.


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Slant Magazine Jesse Cataldo

Spike Lee's version loses the one thing that really worked in the original, the sense of moral complication emerging out of the intertwined action of two men hell-bent on retribution.


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I saw the original first just to make a comparison and this was a really clumsy remake. All the subtleties of the original were bulldozed with obvious plot points that the original only gave away at the end. As twisted as the story is, I actually cared about the characters in the original. Spike really should have spent a little more time developing the main characters and maybe this would have worked. Really disappointed


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Terrible movie, completely detracts from the original manga and has lots of gaps. Just because Samuel L. Jackson appears give it a 3. And do not misunderstand me, not for being a remake is bad, is that they changed the whole plot and nothing makes sense.

I still believe that this movie was made just for that 5 year olds understand. Not everything has to be explained, we must appeal to deductive capacity Mr. Lee.


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The remake remains largely faithful to the story of the 2003 effort, but seriously lacks in intensity and a sense of meaning. The original film achieves a sublime blending of ultra-violence with extreme art, while the remake feels bogged down in its copycat status, and its overall lighter tone hampers its enigmatic, disconcerting story of revenge. My advice is to avoid this altogether, pull up the original on Netflix, and deal with the subtitles America.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/9/16 at 8:03 pm to
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Are the other two films from the Park Chan-wook Vengeance Trilogy just as good?


Lady Vengeance I think is close, but Oldboy is by far his best work. I'm kinda a sucker for revenge books/films though, so your mileage may vary.

All three are definitely work watching though either way.
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