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re: I just finished The Empire Strikes Back...there's nothing in the prequels...
Posted on 12/31/15 at 3:43 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 12/31/15 at 3:43 pm to RollTide1987
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Even more than The Godfather Part II, The Empire Strikes Back has completely defined what a sequel should be.
Um....no.
Um...yes.
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 3:52 pm to lsufan9193969700
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Um...yes.
Absolutely not. The Empire Strikes Back is a favorite with fans and that's about it. I like Empire more than Star Wars but The Godfather Part II is my second favorite film of all-time. The writing is incredible and it features one of the greatest on-screen performances of all-time with Al Pacino as Michael Corleone.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 3:57 pm to RollTide1987
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Absolutely not. The Empire Strikes Back is a favorite with fans and that's about it. I like Empire more than Star Wars but The Godfather Part II is my second favorite film of all-time. The writing is incredible and it features one of the greatest on-screen performances of all-time with Al Pacino as Michael Corleone.
To each his on...but I disagree.
...and I love G II.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:13 pm to blueboy
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But that doesn't change that Empire should be on that list. Even more than The Godfather Part II
Way to take my quote completely out of context.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:18 pm to RollTide1987
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Even more than The Godfather Part II, The Empire Strikes Back has completely defined what a sequel should be.
Um....no.
Actually, yes. The Godfather Part II is completely unconventional. It's a wonderful film and better than Empire, but it does not define what a sequel should be to its predecessor. The Godfather Part II is completely nonlinear and demands your concentration in a way the original didn't. It's a fantastic movie, but you don't see many attempting to emulate it as far as a sequel is concerned.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:21 pm to OMLandshark
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Actually, yes. The Godfather Part II is completely unconventional. It's a wonderful film and better than Empire, but it does not define what a sequel should be to its predecessor. The Godfather Part II is completely nonlinear and demands your concentration in a way the original didn't. It's a fantastic movie, but you don't see many attempting to emulate it as far as a sequel is concerned.
This!
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:26 pm to OMLandshark
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Actually, yes. The Godfather Part II is completely unconventional.
That's not what he was arguing. Otherwise he wouldn't have made the comparison. The Godfather Part II and The Empire Strikes Back are two totally different films trying to do two totally different things. Everyone and their mother knows this.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:31 pm to Capital Cajun
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It's a good thing Lucas cut the Wampa attack scenes inside the rebel base on Hoth or you would be lumping it in with The Phantom Menace.
Not even close...
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:31 pm to OMLandshark
Well, if you don't want me to laugh at your stupid shite, don't say stupid shite.
Empire is a fashionable, recent fanboy favorite. It's a good movie, but the dialog is corny, some of the plot points are out of place and it cannot stand on its own as a movie.
I do agree with your Star Wars cantina reply to the other guy, btw. Some people seem to need to have everything spelled out for them, but the cantina gives people a feast of images that allows the audience to fill in its own blanks.
Empire is a fashionable, recent fanboy favorite. It's a good movie, but the dialog is corny, some of the plot points are out of place and it cannot stand on its own as a movie.
I do agree with your Star Wars cantina reply to the other guy, btw. Some people seem to need to have everything spelled out for them, but the cantina gives people a feast of images that allows the audience to fill in its own blanks.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 4:37 pm to blueboy
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Empire is a fashionable, recent fanboy favorite.
Fashionable? Recent...favorite?
Wow...how out of touch are you? How old are you?
Empire has been considered the best of the OT by the majority since the mid-80s. Where have you been?
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 12/31/15 at 5:30 pm to lsufan9193969700
quote:No. It hasn't. Honestly, the only place I see that level of support is on this board.
Empire has been considered the best of the OT by the majority since the mid-80s. Where have you been?
No one dislikes Empire, but the majority prefer Star Wars. The majority of people in the industry agree, as does pop culture, evidenced by the fact that Star Wars lines are quoted far more often than Empire's. shite, the most famous line from Empire is actually a misquote.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 5:31 pm to blueboy
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No. It hasn't. Honestly, the only place I
Are you a liar or simply dumb?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:37 pm to lsufan9193969700
quote:Well, the American Film Institute agrees with me. Some queers on message boards agree with you. I suppose why I, um, get why you'd prefer the latter position, but mine does not need to be defended.
Are you a liar or simply dumb?
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:50 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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It's not even up for debate it's the best film in the franchise
The original is the best movie in the franchise. It works much better as a standalone film than Empire.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:58 pm to Froman
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The original is the best movie in the franchise. It works much better as a standalone film than Empire.
I agree Star Wars is the better stand alone film, but it's not the better film. The fact of the matter if you make "stand alone" the defining portion of it being the best film, then the second chapter is doomed every time. The point of the first film is to establish the universe, characters, and a moment of temporary closure. The second really should hardly have a beginning and end. It should just be drama with the characters and to build them up before the final confrontation. This is why often the second chapter is my favorite in many epics. It's difficult to pull off, but the films that do are simply magnificent. That's my opinion at least.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:14 pm to OMLandshark
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agree Star Wars is the better stand alone film, but it's not the better film. The fact of the matter if you make "stand alone" the defining portion of it being the best film, then the second chapter is doomed every time. The point of the first film is to establish the universe, characters, and a moment of temporary closure. The second really should hardly have a beginning and end. It should just be drama with the characters and to build them up before the final confrontation. This is why often the second chapter is my favorite in many epics. It's difficult to pull off, but the films that do are simply magnificent. That's my opinion at least.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:56 pm to blueboy
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Empire is a fashionable, recent fanboy favorite
Why dont you do everybody on this site a favor and just stop talking about Star Wars. We get it, you don't like it. Please just move on....
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:07 pm to blueboy
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that doesn't change that Empire should be on that list. Even more than The Godfather Part II
I don't know which is the "better" movie but if both movies were on at the same time, I'd watch Empire ever time.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:12 pm to biglego
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I don't know which is the "better" movie but if both movies were on at the same time, I'd watch Empire ever time.
Totally agree! The Godfather 2 is probably thought of as the better movie but I'd watch Empire any day!
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:55 pm to OMLandshark
Star Wars EP IV: My daughter had a friend, a girl, who would come to the lake house a few times each summer. Early 20s, dancer, fit, would strut around in her bikini all day and it was just awesome. she was just incredible to look at.
Empire EP V: One day I tried to teach her to water ski. Her bikini top got torn loose in the prop wash and we all saw her virtually naked when she came out the water as her skis started to plane. Meh. Nothing special when her top came off. Kinda disappointing, actually.
Empire EP V: One day I tried to teach her to water ski. Her bikini top got torn loose in the prop wash and we all saw her virtually naked when she came out the water as her skis started to plane. Meh. Nothing special when her top came off. Kinda disappointing, actually.
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