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re: Gotham was crap, Scorpion was crap..........what a let down
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:55 pm to hendersonshands
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:55 pm to hendersonshands
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I thought Gotham was alright. Then again, I don't pretend to hate stuff to seem cool on the internet.
Exactly. Plus who jumps to conclusions (good or bad) about a show based on the pilot? Most of the quality shows regardless of source (network/cable/premium) struggle well into their first season.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:57 pm to schexyoung
hopefully it gets better. but its hard to look past the innocent man thing.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:57 pm to LordSaintly
I'm above network TV.
But I'll watch hours of it each night and take the time to write about it on the internet.
But I'll watch hours of it each night and take the time to write about it on the internet.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:59 pm to Indigold
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But then there's you, who "thought it was pretty" solid, just because it's a batman universe, even though you think it has its limitations and the writing was hokie. You're guilty of the same thing, just opposite
Just because it's a Batman universe? Hardly. I'm far from a fanboy. But as I said, I'm not naive enough to expect Mad Men, Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad type quality out of every single show I watch.
It is entirely possible to just "like" a show and find it "enjoyable" even if it's not top notch in the very first episode.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Just because it's a Batman universe? Hardly. I'm far from a fanboy
I gotcha, my bad
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People kill me when they just want to shite on something just to shite on it.
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It is entirely possible to just "like" a show and find it "enjoyable" even if it's not top notch in the very first episode.
But it's also possible for people to "shite on it" because they honestly did not like it, not because they wanna seem cool
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:24 pm to Indigold
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But it's also possible for people to "shite on it" because they honestly did not like it, not because they wanna seem cool
This.
I'm a huge comic book fan. The whole premise of Gotham is a prequel to Batman.
I cannot escape the fact that it is the same premise that spawned us Jar Jar in the Lucas prequels.
Based on the poor writing, plot and pace of last night's episode. It could end up being a dumpster fire fairly quickly.
All that being said it took arrow and Agents of shield 75 percent of their first seasons to become must see tv viewing worthy.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 2:31 pm to L S Usetheforce
L S Usetheforce
Nice trolling. Plenty of us enjoyed the Gotham premier.
Nice trolling. Plenty of us enjoyed the Gotham premier.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:12 pm to L S Usetheforce
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Her first response 15 minutes in.........How many fricking times do I have to see young Bruce Wayne see his parents get killed.
In all fairness, and I didn't much care for the premier, this is the first showing of the murder (as far as I know) that has a major character witnessing the crime. I'm sure that sets up a new wrinkle that the show is going to play off of that hasn't happened before.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:21 pm to BlacknGold
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so does this board just generally not watch tv? seems like everything sucks.
group of cynical assholes...I love that gif from South Park
Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:34 pm to asurob1
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I cannot escape the fact that it is the same premise that spawned us Jar Jar in the Lucas prequels.
It's also the premise that gave us Godfather II.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 6:28 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I'm not a TV snob per say but after committing to stuff like breaking bad, mad men, GOT, Lost, the wire, leftovers etc......I'm gonna compare perfection to this pilots.....
Call me a pretender I don't care, those two shows were shite.....I'd be willing to bet they likely get cancelled too.
Call me a pretender I don't care, those two shows were shite.....I'd be willing to bet they likely get cancelled too.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 6:52 pm to L S Usetheforce
so you compare the greatest shows ever on television to crime dramas on fox? seems legit.
do you also compare a movie like happy gilmore to the Godfather?
do you also compare a movie like happy gilmore to the Godfather?
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 6:59 pm to BlacknGold
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so you compare the greatest shows ever on television to crime dramas on fox? seems legit.
do you also compare a movie like happy gilmore to the Godfather?
OP attempted a troll and failed quickly.
A no-win question like this is usually the point where the troll wannabe accepts failure and silently moves on or really starts embarassing him/herself and sticks around.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 7:27 pm to L S Usetheforce
People will defend these show because they want them to be good, but they simply aren't.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 7:58 pm to L S Usetheforce
Hold on. Your wife's complaint is that the prequel tv show to Batman showed his origin story?
Where in this universe of legit complaints does that make any sense?
Where in this universe of legit complaints does that make any sense?
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:51 pm to BlacknGold
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so you compare the greatest shows ever on television to crime dramas on fox?
Or better yet, comparing only the pilot to those entire series. This is like having a newborn and calling it retarded because it didn't come out of the womb wiping its own arse.
As stated earlier, both Arrow and Agents of SHIELD were weak at the start but are now both hitting good strides. Give it a season before condemning it.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:06 pm to L S Usetheforce
quote:Because it is one of the most important events in Gotham's history. The turning point.
The point being Gotham just regurgitated something that has been done OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
Not showing it would be fricking tragically stupid.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:12 am to Roaad
I thought both were okay. I can hardly ever decide I dislike a show after only the pilot. I have to give it about 5 weeks.
Getting back to Utopia, does anyone else think the contractor reminds them of Jason Segel?
Getting back to Utopia, does anyone else think the contractor reminds them of Jason Segel?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:38 pm to Bard
quote:lol
Or better yet, comparing only the pilot to those entire series. This is like having a newborn and calling it retarded because it didn't come out of the womb wiping its own arse.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:56 am to Roaad
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Because it is one of the most important events in Gotham's history. The turning point.
Not showing it would be fricking tragically stupid.
But showing it in the pilot was the mistake. My problem is that Gotham came out the gate throwing everything and anything at the wall and the usually means the series is going to be a bust.
How many villains/characters were referenced in 40 minutes? Like 6-8 major people from the Batman Universe.
It just seems that had the show started very methodically and introduced us to just Gordon and his beginning his role as detective, it would give the show much more stamina in the long run. The end of Season One could have easily been the murder of the Waynes. I would also like to see very little of Bruce Wayne in this series.
My two cents.
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