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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Edition ***Spoilers Possible***
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:22 am to TDTGodfather
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:22 am to TDTGodfather
Not implying anything will or won't happen, I'm explaining that Cersei believes she handled the problem you inquired about.
Technically she didn't commit adultery with Lancel, her husband was dead. Granted it was Lancel who facilitated his death.
Technically she didn't commit adultery with Lancel, her husband was dead. Granted it was Lancel who facilitated his death.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:22 am to Epic Cajun
She's probably the most tactless character on the show or books.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:29 am to UMRealist
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She's probably the most tactless character on the show or books.
I'd say she is without question, or at least one who prides herself as the most skilled tactician in all of Westeros:
From Tyrion:
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Cersei is as gentle as King Maegor, as selfless as Aegon the Unworthy, as wise as Mad Aerys. She never forgets a slight, real or imagined. She takes caution for cowardice and dissent for defiance. And she is greedy. Greedy for power, for honour, for love.
From LF:
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Every man's a piece to start with, and every maid as well. Even some who think they are players. Cersei, for one. She thinks herself sly, but in truth she is utterly predictable. Her strength rests on her beauty, birth, and riches. Only the first of those is truly her own, and it will soon desert her. I pity her then. She wants power, but has no notion what to do with it when she gets it.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:42 am to TigerintheNO
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Not implying anything will or won't happen, I'm explaining that Cersei believes she handled the problem you inquired about.
Technically she didn't commit adultery with Lancel, her husband was dead. Granted it was Lancel who facilitated his death.
gotcha. i was under the impression the lancel romps were an ongoing thing over a period of time.
even if you take him out of the equation isn't basically like tywin the only one not to know (or admit to know) that all of cersei's kids are fathered by her brother? isn't it supposed to be the worst kept secret in westeros (maybe next to renly/loras)
i would think the faith militant wouldn't take too kindly to that and i guess if they can imprison a sitting queen, imprisoning a queen mother ain't no thang.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:44 am to TDTGodfather
Twin knew.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:45 am to OMLandshark
Do you have all these saved somewhere?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:46 am to Epic Cajun
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Right, is it just me or did Cersei basically tell LF how vulnerable King's Landing is currently. She told him that Kevan wasn't around and neither was Jaime. She has control of no army. Why would she tell LF that? Seems like a mistake to me.
right and it seem unfathomable through all this that she's alienating the only ally she has in the tyrells. who are also the reason you aren't all dead and stannis isn't sitting on swords right now.
it seems overtly stupid.
btw totally unrelated but i would watch a show with just cersei, olenna, jamie, bronn, tyrion and varys sitting around a table talking trading jabs.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:47 am to UMRealist
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Do you have all these saved somewhere?
Landshark has the first 3 books memorized
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:56 am to TigerintheNO
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Technically she didn't commit adultery with Lancel, her husband was dead. Granted it was Lancel who facilitated his death.
It doesn't matter if she committed adultery or not, I'm pretty sure that the Sparrows don't take too kindly to fornication, especially when it is with a cousin.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:13 am to Bamatab
She was frickin Lancel before Robert died
Atleast in the show
Atleast in the show
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:14 am to Bamatab
Cousin fricking is allowed in Westros, her parents were cousins(Tywin & Joanna).
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:15 am to TigerintheNO
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Cousin fricking is allowed in Westros,
Not for the Sparrows
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:17 am to wildtigercat93
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She was frickin Lancel before Robert died
Atleast in the show
Are you sure about that? I didn't think she started with Lancel until after Jamie was captured by Robb Stark.
Just looked it up, Lancel's reward for helping with Robert's demise was her.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 10:20 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:18 am to UMRealist
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Do you have all these saved somewhere?
From Cersei Wiki of Ice and Fire page.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:19 am to TigerintheNO
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Cousin fricking is allowed in Westros, her parents were cousins(Tywin & Joanna).
Prostitution is allowed also, and you see what happened there.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:20 am to Bamatab
good point
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:24 am to TigerintheNO
And I think you are right, Lancel didn't start being Cersei's boy toy until after Jamie was captured (at least that is the first time we see it).
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:05 pm to Bamatab
What's interesting to me is that the Targs took up the faith of the 7 and even had a faith militant up until there was some rebellion I believe
Seems like a weird relationship given that the Targs were regular sibling frickers
Seems like a weird relationship given that the Targs were regular sibling frickers
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:08 pm to TigerintheNO
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did it make sense to you when Selyse told Stannis that Edric was dead?
I'm just saying that mentioning pennies in the context of Arya's story makes no sense because book Penny isn't part of that story, and because their actually are pennies in the books.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 12:40 pm to wildtigercat93
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What's interesting to me is that the Targs took up the faith of the 7 and even had a faith militant up until there was some rebellion I believe
Seems like a weird relationship given that the Targs were regular sibling frickers
They pop up and go away at different times throughout Westeros' history, but never stick around indefinitely. If I'm not mistaken, the only time it really rose up during the Targs dynasty was when several things happened under Aenys I who was the second Targ King of Westeros. He allowed the Ironborn to oust the faith of seven from the Iron Islands, his half-brother (and future successor) married a second wife while the first one still lived, and the king married his daughter to one of his sons. When he died, his half-brother took the throne and outlawed the Faith Militant, and commenced to brutally hunting them down. Finally his successor offered the surviving members amnesty in exchange for the disbandment of the Faith Militant. That's the last time they appeared until Cersei lets them reform.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 12:42 pm
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