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GoT chess pieces analysis from a strategic standpoint. (Show only Spoilers)
Posted on 7/31/17 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 6:49 pm
A few thoughts:
The Lannisters taking Highgarden and giving up Casterly Rock to the Unsullied was purely financial. By taking Highgarden they pay their debts to the Iron Bank but militarily it means nothing.
The Unsullied losing their naval transport also means nothing. They can march on King's Landing on a major road from Casterly Rock to Kings Landing never having to come close to Highgarden and never needing the boats which they probably never planned on using again.
The Lannisters taking Highgarden and giving up Casterly Rock to the Unsullied was purely financial. By taking Highgarden they pay their debts to the Iron Bank but militarily it means nothing.
The Unsullied losing their naval transport also means nothing. They can march on King's Landing on a major road from Casterly Rock to Kings Landing never having to come close to Highgarden and never needing the boats which they probably never planned on using again.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:03 pm to Scoop
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The Unsullied losing their naval transport also means nothing. They can march on King's Landing on a major road from Casterly Rock to Kings Landing never having to come close to Highgarden and never needing the boats which they probably never planned on using again.
They are a foreign army whose never dealt with the land, doesn't know where anything is, and is not built for a long term hold of the castle
If they venture into the field it plays right into Jamie's hands as they will meet the weakened Unsullied forces with the full might of the Lannister army
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:15 pm to Scoop
The Unsullied have no supplies, no food, in a foreign land.
"an army marches on its stomach"
"an army marches on its stomach"
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:24 pm to TigerintheNO
It's time for some dragon fire!
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:33 pm to HubbaBubba
Why does everyone think the Lannister army is so small and weak? They hardly lost anyone at Casterley Rock.
Where is this even confirmed? Shouldn't we also assume they've grabbed not only the Tyrell's grains and gold but also their men?
Lannister army is going to wreck shite with Jaime at the helm.
Where is this even confirmed? Shouldn't we also assume they've grabbed not only the Tyrell's grains and gold but also their men?
Lannister army is going to wreck shite with Jaime at the helm.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:35 pm to STLhog
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Why does everyone think the Lannister army is so small and weak? They hardly lost anyone at Casterley Rock.
The War of the Five Kings is why.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:40 pm to OMLandshark
So are we all just assuming Euron's man can only fight on boats?
Dany is fricked at this point. She has no other choice than to go after Kings Landing in a brutal way that is going to make her look like her father.
Did she ever have a choice to begin with other than to take King's Landing?
Dany is fricked at this point. She has no other choice than to go after Kings Landing in a brutal way that is going to make her look like her father.
Did she ever have a choice to begin with other than to take King's Landing?
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:41 pm to STLhog
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So are we all just assuming Euron's man can only fight on boats
I think that's probably a fair assumption.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:44 pm to Scoop
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The Lannisters taking Highgarden and giving up Casterly Rock to the Unsullied was purely financial. By taking Highgarden they pay their debts to the Iron Bank but militarily it means nothing
The point of the paying back the iron bank for past debts was not to clear the debt, it was to reopen the credit line to fund the current war.
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The Unsullied losing their naval transport also means nothing. They can march on King's Landing on a major road from Casterly Rock to Kings Landing never having to come close to Highgarden and never needing the boats which they probably never planned on using aga
They were probably planning on using the food again.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 7:45 pm to Turbeauxdog
Dany still has her Dothraki, but it's still unknown how they would fare against armored soldiers.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:07 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
My thing is why take Casterly Rock and get back on the boats and sail the Unsullied all the way back to the Eastern Coast? The strategy would be to take Casterly Rock as a staging point to for the Unsullied to advance from the West on King's Landing while Dani advances from the East if she can get her heavy cavalry off the island.
Military, I don't see as much of a kink as the show suggests.
Military, I don't see as much of a kink as the show suggests.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:27 pm to Scoop
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My thing is why take Casterly Rock and get back on the boats and sail the Unsullied all the way back to the Eastern Coast?
They weren't going to do that.
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The strategy would be to take Casterly Rock as a staging point to for the Unsullied to advance from the West on King's Landing while Dani advances from the East if she can get her heavy cavalry off the island.
Sounds great but they can no longer do that.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:39 pm to TigerintheNO
None of this matters - Dani dgaf now. She's about to take the dragons and wreck shop.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:16 pm to Scoop
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Military, I don't see as much of a kink as the show suggests.
The Unsullied are on the opposite side of the continent with no food (as Jamie said that the Lannister army took most of the provision when they left). So without food (except was was brought ashore before the attack/can be salvaged or gathered), they are in an untenable defensive position OR they have to march across the continent with the possibility of facing the Lannister army somewhere along the way.
Also the plan relied on the Dornish army advancing from the South and I'm not sure that's going to happen without Ellaria there since who else is there now.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:59 pm to STLhog
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Shouldn't we also assume they've grabbed not only the Tyrell's grains and gold but also their men?
The Tryell' s men are dead, but Jamie was marching to Highgarden with the bannermen from the Reach already on his side.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:24 pm to STLhog
Well based on the trailers and preview for the next episode they're about to meet a massive Dothraki army in open field. Also Dany has her dragons, it's very possible next week will be Dany dealing a massive blow to Cersei's army
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:41 am to wildtigercat93
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Jamie's hands
Jamie's **hand**
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:43 am to Scoop
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. By taking Highgarden they pay their debts to the Iron Bank but militarily it means nothing.
uh
being able to feed their population/army means a lot to the war effort
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The Unsullied losing their naval transport also means nothing.
bro they're basically under siege if they stay, and they don't have a way to feed their army and will lose (or leave)
Posted on 8/1/17 at 7:47 am to bbrownso
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The Unsullied are on the opposite side of the continent with no food
Davos gonna smuggle in some onions to the unsullied like a boss.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
hhmmm maybe this is playing right into Dany having to abandon her hardline with Jon snow and make a new deal with her........uncle
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