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re: Game of Thrones S4E2 - "The Lion and the Rose" (SPOILERS) Readers thread

Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:13 pm to
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She obviously has dealt with Joff killing her father right in front of her and then the rest of her family was killed at a wedding just before. She certainly has motive

I think a lot of people aren't giving Sansa enough credit. Would she ever murder someone in the same fashion that Arya does? No...but she almost pushed Joffrey off the edge of that bridge in Season 1 when he showed her Septa Mordane and Ned's heads. I could see Sansa killing Littlefinger later on as well, but it's not going to be in a cool Faceless Man disguise or by sticking her sword through his throat or stabbing him to death.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 4:45 pm to
She should slit his throat with a dagger after warning him not to trust her.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 5:00 pm to
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I just assume over half the people in the Hodor thread are actually book readers trolling.


I don't worry about it anymore. That whole thread can implode upon itself for all I care. They're on their own. The survivors of the coming purge can come to the MGT.
Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:13 pm to
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I don't worry about it anymore. That whole thread can implode upon itself for all I care. They're on their own. The survivors of the coming purge can come to the MGT.



I wouldn't go that far but I do think it silly at this point for anyone to be conjecturing about what might happen in the TV series when it has followed the books so closely. I mean who has any credibility in predicting what might happen when it has already happened. Now obviously beyond book 5, yes, conjecture/deduction is plausible.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:15 pm to
The show is so popular it hard not to get it spoiled for you via friends, family, social media, etc.
Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:22 pm to
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The show is so popular it hard not to get it spoiled for you via friends, family, social media, etc.


Exactly, so why worry about it? Just read the books and follow along with the TV series and enjoy. Sometimes I get the impression that some are so intent on being the smart guy in the group/prognosticators that they miss out on the enjoyment of a good TV show because it didn't live up to their predictions.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:38 pm to
If I were a Hodor, I think I would be jockeying Sansa. I'd just think that the Queen of Thorns is too obvious, wouldn't have direct access to the cup, and it seems to go directly against the Tyrells getting in power.

Sansa though had opportunity and one hell of a motive, plus has been emotionally distant. Sansa is also the one person who would actively want to crash Joffrey's wedding and kill him there due to how her mother and brother were killed.
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Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:41 pm to
Additionally, by framing Tyrion she might be able to get out of that arranged marriage.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:41 pm to
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Me too; I pictured the wedding to be in the early evening and Sansa's escape happening at night.


Seriously, who serves the pie when it's still broad daylight?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:46 pm to
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What would lead them to believe that Sansa had the backbone, capability, and ruthlessness to murder someone?


Why not kill Joffrey if she had some sort of plan to escape? Killing him at his own wedding would be the ultimate "frick you", especially with how her family died. Tyrion himself has concluded in the novels that Sansa poisoned him and escaped. Plus poison is a woman's weapon, and I wouldn't put it past Sansa to poison Joffrey if she had the opportunity. Hell, she tried to push Joffrey off the castle walls, but the Hound subtly stopped it. She would have certainly died over that too, and she feels as if she has nothing to lose.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 6:48 pm to
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Last year I crusaded about Eman being a bookreader and got nowhere, nice to see him brought to justice at least.


Yeah, 10 minutes after the episode ended he said it was Olenna, Margeary, and Littlefinger behind it. Could he have been any more obvious. Just retarded from his standpoint to think that we wouldn't notice that and not get him banned.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:29 pm to
If I never read anything and watched the episode my dumbass would've thought Tyrion and Sansa did it. I think.

The cool thing about the episode was they showed how everyone thought the midget battle was in horribly bad taste.

The only ones who enjoyed it were Joff, Tywin, and Cersei.

Hell, Loras got up and walked out. He prolly could have his head cut off for that. I hope he's not dead on Dragonstone. (or is it Storm's End?)
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:34 pm to
That reminds me; saw an interview and they tried to stay true to the books but couldn't pull it off:
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One thing I really loved about this chapter in the book, is the wedding gives Joffrey the opportunity to remind us of all the ways he’s a horrible person right up until the moment that he dies.
Weiss: To preempt objections, it is not feasible, on a production level, to have a person riding a pig.*

But you looked into it.
Weiss: We did. We were told it was not fair to the pig. They said it would be okay [to have] a pig riding a person.


Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:35 pm to
Didn't he also guess Arya would turn into an assassin? Or different guy?
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:41 pm to
The appropriate measure would be Hodors sharing their bread & salt, to which no harm could be done in their keep.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108256 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:41 pm to
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Didn't he also guess Arya would turn into an assassin? Or different guy?


To be fair, I thought that when I was a Hodor. I knew she wasn't getting a sword, killing people, and having an assassin give her a method in which she could become one of them for nothing.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:44 pm to
Definitely; plus she has the poison in her hairnet/necklace. But it'll be revealed next episode when we see Lord Twatbeard after his long absence. He hasn't been shown since S3E6 (The Climb).
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:15 pm to
Well one post I was referring to basically accused Littlefinger and Olena and basically spelled it out as it happened.

And then just for no reason at the end mentioned something about Arya moving far away to become a trained assassin.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:42 pm to
So when is Dany gonna throw Jorah out?

I'm predicting towards the end of the season although it should be the next episode or two if it stays true to the books.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 4/17/14 at 3:09 pm to
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I'm predicting towards the end of the season although it should be the next episode or two if it stays true to the books.


More than likely the end of the season...because there's really no other cliffhanger ending they can use for her...other than her fricking Daario.
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