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Game of Thrones questions

Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:56 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 6:56 pm
1. In season 3 when Qyburn was fixing Jamie, why did Jamie refuse milk of the poppy?

2. Why did Robb wait till season 3 to plan an attack on Casterly Rock? Seems like season 2 would've been the perfect time. His army was at full strength. He was winning battles. He was in the westerland. He should know that Stannis was heading to Kings Landing and that Tywin would move his army there, leaving Casterly Rock vulnerable.

3. The old wizard that Varys captured in season 3. Where is he? With Varys going back to Essos at the end of season 4, does that mean the Wizard is on the ship as well?
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:13 pm to
1. He didn't want Qyburn to chop off his arm or experiment on him like he did with other sickly people (and thus that's how Qyburn lost his Maester chain).

2. Robb gonna Robb

3. No clue .
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

2. Why did Robb wait till season 3 to plan an attack on Casterly Rock? Seems like season 2 would've been the perfect time. His army was at full strength. He was winning battles. He was in the westerland. He should know that Stannis was heading to Kings Landing and that Tywin would move his army there, leaving Casterly Rock vulnerable.



book info would answer this question i believe
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

1. In season 3 when Qyburn was fixing Jamie, why did Jamie refuse milk of the poppy?



Because it dulls his sense, and Qyburn could do god knows what to him (and of anyone in the 7 Kingdoms, he's the one person you don't want to be oblivious around).

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2. Why did Robb wait till season 3 to plan an attack on Casterly Rock? Seems like season 2 would've been the perfect time. His army was at full strength. He was winning battles. He was in the westerland. He should know that Stannis was heading to Kings Landing and that Tywin would move his army there, leaving Casterly Rock vulnerable.



That was just something that the show made up and makes no sense to me either.

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3. The old wizard that Varys captured in season 3. Where is he? With Varys going back to Essos at the end of season 4, does that mean the Wizard is on the ship as well?



Something else the show made up, but I like a lot.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:46 pm to
1. I saw it as Jaime atoning for his sins. He knew he deserved to feel every bit of the pain for pushing Bran off that tower.

2. Attacking Casterly Rock was a dumb idea... He needed to keep the focus on King's Landing.

3. He dead
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:54 pm to
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Why did Robb wait till season 3 to plan an attack on Casterly Rock?

Because he was marching on King's Landing initially to rescue Ned. When Ned was killed it wouldn't have made sense to give up all of their gains and attack Casterly Rock. The only reason they were going to go after Casterly Rock was because half their forces had just left and they needed to put the Lannister's between a rock and a hard place. That was their only power move available after the Karstarks left.

But like OMLandshark said, it was something that made no sense because it was made up by the show writers. IIRC in the books they were going to go back north and drive out the Iron Born before dealing with the Lannisters further.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 7:59 pm
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

3. The old wizard that Varys captured in season 3. Where is he? With Varys going back to Essos at the end of season 4, does that mean the Wizard is on the ship as well?


I just rewatched that episode and I swear it looked like that creepy bald headed warlock from the House of the Undying
Posted by aggressor
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:00 pm to
They really screwed up Robb's storyline and made him less interesting. The whole idea that he would just marry random Essos girl made no sense and was far less interesting than how the book dealt with his marriage. Also the idea of them going North through the Neck made a lot more sense than attacking Casterly Rock. Even if he succeeded (which was a stretch as Casterly Rock would be extremely difficult to conquer) what would they do? They would essentially use up their limited forces to get trapped up against the sea. I suppose they could have used the captured gold to buy sellswords? Robb had no fleet and neither did the Lannisters at CL.

It just made very little sense to me.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

1. I saw it as Jaime atoning for his sins. He knew he deserved to feel every bit of the pain for pushing Bran off that tower.

That's how I took it as well IIRC.
Posted by CockHolliday
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

1. In season 3 when Qyburn was fixing Jamie, why did Jamie refuse milk of the poppy?


Because he wanted the wrench.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

I just rewatched that episode and I swear it looked like that creepy bald headed warlock from the House of the Undying

One of Dany's dragons fried him at the end of s2.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:18 pm to
quote:


One of Dany's dragons fried him at the end of s2.


Which one of him though?
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

2. Why did Robb wait till season 3 to plan an attack on Casterly Rock? Seems like season 2 would've been the perfect time. His army was at full strength. He was winning battles. He was in the westerland. He should know that Stannis was heading to Kings Landing and that Tywin would move his army there, leaving Casterly Rock vulnerable.


Think about it. Twin's army outnumbers the Northerners, and the Northerners are operating in foreign territory. Capturing the Rock means putting your back to the sea and risking being surrounded by the Lannisters, effectively cutting your supply line. And you can't resupply by sea either, because guess what? The whole Greyjoy Iron Fleet lives right there, between the North and the Rock.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Something else the show made up, but I like a lot.


Impossible. Everyone knows that any plot change is detrimental to the story, and any modification in somebody's personality, traits, or words is just character assassination.
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 3:08 pm to
2. Taking Casterly Rock does not win the war.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 3:12 pm to
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2. Taking Casterly Rock does not win the war.


then why did he plan for it in season 3?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 3:31 pm to
Because he was thinking with emotions and listening to his mom.
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