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re: game of thrones debate question
Posted on 7/23/16 at 11:54 am to Peazey
Posted on 7/23/16 at 11:54 am to Peazey
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Littlefinger figured that if he couldn't have Cat then he could at least sleep with Lysa. Sort of like what he is doing with Sansa. It is all one big infatuation with Cat. Then Lysa actually fell in love with Littlefinger and disdained Cat because Cat was the one everyone favored over her. There's this whole love triangle thing going on.
I really don't think that LF ever intended to settle with Lysa. He merely used her and drove her to the brink of insanity.
With Sansa on the other hand, he's more than happy to settle down with her and seems to have not given a damn about Cat's death now that he has her in younger form.
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Posted on 7/23/16 at 11:57 am to td01241
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Correct. LF loves no one but Cat and everything he did was to get Cat before she died. Now everything he does is for him to sit on the iron throne with Sansa beside him, he says as much.
Maybe in the show, but I don't think that's what he's after in the books. He's out to melt the throne and everything it stands for.
I also don't think he ever loved Cat. LF doesn't really know the difference between obsession and love. I couldn't see LF ever laying down his life for another. If there was ever a good part of Petyr Baelish, it was killed by Brandon Stark.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:00 pm to OMLandshark
Definitely in the show. I disagree with what you said about the books, but it isn't as clear as it is in the show. He loved Cat, he would've died for her when he challenged Neds brother to a duel for her hand if she wouldn't have stopped him from killing LF. Now he wants Sansa.
This post was edited on 7/23/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:01 pm to OMLandshark
Robin being small and frail has more to do with being part of how Lysa had difficulty having a child after being forced to have the abortion. She had many miscarriages because of permanent damage done to her. The other descriptions are just a stretch for saying that they are evidence for Baelish's paternity when they are more easily interpreted as just being a development of Robin's character and personality. I won't say it's completely impossible, but there isn't a real reason to think it, and it doesn't add anything. I do kind of expect the other thing you said about Baelish poisoning him to probably be true.
This post was edited on 7/23/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:07 pm to OMLandshark
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I really don't think that LF ever intended to settle with Lysa. He merely used her and drove her to the brink of insanity.
With Sansa on the other hand, he's more than happy to settle down with her and seems to have not given a damn about Cat's death now that he has her in younger form.
That's what I meant. He fricked Lysa not because he intended to settle down with her. He did it as a manipulation, or maybe a "they think that I'm not good enough for this family, I'll show them that I'm good enough to at least frick the ugly sister." It was either manipulation or a simple pissed off frick you and probably a little of both.
With Sansa it is more of a transfer of infatuation, because I agree with you that he doesn't actually love either Cat or Sansa. They are just objects that he wants to possess for the same reasons he wants to destroy the kingdom.
This post was edited on 7/23/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:22 pm to Peazey
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I meant as part of prime and free to stream like much of older HBO content
Ahh, my bad.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:31 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
All good. It wasn't very clear.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:36 pm to td01241
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He loved Cat, he would've died for her when he challenged Neds brother to a duel for her hand if she wouldn't have stopped him from killing LF.
As I said, anything good about Petyr died that day. And I still think even at that young age that he may have regarded Cat as more a the ultimate trophy than anything else. I don't think if he actually loved her that he would have dragged someone like her to his horrible keep in the Fingers. I think he quickly went from a sweet kid to a sociopath as a result of the duel.
It is really striking that he doesn't seem to be remotely affected by the Red Wedding, which makes me believe he never truly loved her. If he did, he would have been much more kind to Sansa when taking her in, but instead just starts training her to be his own spawn. He found a bigger and nicer prize in her daughter, so he changes his obsession towards her on a dime.
This post was edited on 7/23/16 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:41 pm to Peazey
As I said, I don't think SR is LF's son, but it is very possible and one of the more viable Crackpot theories.
Posted on 7/23/16 at 10:12 pm to cincyykid
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Is Robin Lfs son? I feel like this is very likely.
if he is, he takes after his mother
This post was edited on 7/23/16 at 10:12 pm
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