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For Real Cinephiles…Pertaining to Kubrick

Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:44 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:44 am
What's his best film??

I've become a huge fan of his movies recently and can't stop finding old interviews and documentaries. I think he is the best 'visual' director ever. I have a top 3 (in no particular order) of:

2001
Barry Lyndon
Dr Strangelove

I wish he would have made more movies, especially his Napoleon project, maybe even a Western… it would have been fascinating to see.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:15 am to
2001 is my favorite movie ever. As for top 3 Kubrick films, I'd say 2001, The Shining, A Clockwork Orange. You really can't go wrong with any of his movies. I still need to see Barry Lyndon though.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:32 am to
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What's his best film?


His best? Spartacus or Paths of Glory maybe. 2001 is visually stunning, but seems ponderous to me, the story unclear. Unbelievable movie though.

My favorite: Dr. Strangelove.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:43 am to
quote:

What's his best film??


I used to think Clockwork, then 2001, now I've settled on Barry Lyndon. I just think that film is magnificent.

quote:

I've become a huge fan of his movies recently and can't stop finding old interviews and documentaries. I think he is the best 'visual' director ever. I have a top 3 (in no particular order) of:

2001
Barry Lyndon
Dr Strangelove

I wish he would have made more movies, especially his Napoleon project, maybe even a Western… it would have been fascinating to see.


Add A Clockwork Orange and that's my Top 4.

Agreed. Not only is Kubrick amazing visually, but he made Top of the genre films in science fiction, historical drama, comedy and mystery.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:25 am to
Dr. Strangelove is my favorite.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:07 am to
The Shining was pretty different from the book, but it was done so in a rare instance where it was still every bit as good (if not better) than the book.

2001 was an amazing achievement in using visuals to relay certain feelings to the audience, but those scenes went on far too long (the emptieness of the world, the emptiness of space, the trippy travel) for a movie that was already full of slow pacing. I literally felt like I was being beaten over the head with a hammer while Kubrick was screaming "xxx IS BIG AND EMPTY! DON'T YOU GET IT YET!?!" over and over.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:50 am to
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The Shining was pretty different from the book, but it was done so in a rare instance where it was still every bit as good (if not better) than the book.


I think it's better. King is a great "idea man", and excellent characterizer, and I like his writing style - I think his prose is underrated - but, he is terrible at not just endings, but denouement in general, and is too big a fan of awkwardly inserting cheesily written magic/ghosts/spirits when it would be better to leave the exact cause of the "otherworldly" events in his books unknown. His stories start off AWESOME but never meet the promise they seem to carry in the first 1/3 of the narrative. I think Kubrick took King's overall story and characters and tweaked it in a way that was superior to the book.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 10:51 am
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:56 am to
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I think it's better. King is a great "idea man", and excellent characterizer, and I like his writing style - I think his prose is underrated - but, he is terrible at not just endings, but denouement in general, and is too big a fan of awkwardly inserting cheesily written magic/ghosts/spirits when it would be better to leave the exact cause of the "otherworldly" events in his books unknown. His stories start off AWESOME but never meet the promise they seem to carry in the first 1/3 of the narrative. I think Kubrick took King's overall story and characters and tweaked it in a way that was superior to the book.


I agree. Both The Mist and the Shining are better than their book counterparts.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:06 am to
2001: A Space Odyssey
Dr. Strangelove
A Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket
Eyes Wide Shut
Lolita
Barry Lyndon
Spartacus
The Killing
Paths of Glory
The Shining
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:08 am to
To be fair, King can't like Kubrick's take on the Shining because Jack is an obvious stand-in for King himself. And Kubrick turns him into more of a monster and fails to give him the redemption he gets in the book. King gives himself a redemptive arc, and Kubrick does not. The best way I've seen it put is that the book is from Jack's point of view and the movie is from Danny's. There's less forgiveness to go around when you are the abused, not the abuser.

The abuser, and the alcoholic, rationalizes his behavior, and puts it in the best possible light to make it seem not so bad. The abused kid sees it in the worst possible light, and feels betrayed by the one who was supposed to love and protect him. It's an interesting theory, at least.


I've fallen out of love with Kubrick as I've gotten older. He's a brilliant technical director, but his movies just leave me cold. His characters rarely resemble people, they are just pieces of the set. So, given his style, 2001 is his best film. Humanity getting drained away is part of the point.

But for me personally? It's Paths of Glory. Because he still cared about his characters.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:23 am to
The opening scene of Paths of Glory is better than the opening scene of SPR, IYAM.

Strangelove, for sheer absurdity from beginning to end.

Visually, 2001 and it's not close.

Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17024 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 11:26 am to
I've seen all his films and enjoyed them all.

My favorites are Clockwork Orange and Paths of Glory.

Visually, it's definitely 2001. Hard to believe that film was released in 1968 and is still crisp and fresh to the viewer now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:01 pm to
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, now I've settled on Barry Lyndon. I just think that film is magnificent.

i will never get why this movie isn't celebrated more
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22766 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:42 pm to
The first half of Barry Lyndon is as fine a movie I've ever seen. The battle scenes, the peasant story, and visually. I think everyone was expecting some kind of very ambiguous movie coming off 2001 and Clockwork Orange, but what nobody realized is Lyndon was porbobaly his 2nd most revolutionary film because of the candlelight scenes. Holy shite are those shots amazing…the whole film was shot only with natural light! Nobody… I mean NOBODY would make a big budget movie with that kind of risk now.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

I used to think Clockwork, then 2001, now I've settled on Barry Lyndon. I just think that film is magnificent.



Almost my same feelings.


Barry Lyndon is INSANELY good.

But I still have to put 2001.
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11225 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:59 pm to
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Holy shite are those shots amazing…the whole film was shot only with natural light! Nobody… I mean NOBODY would make a big budget movie with that kind of risk now.


The Revenant
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22766 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:20 pm to
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The Revenant


Is that shot with all natural light? If so, good for Iñárritu, It's amazing how much freedom you get after winning that many Oscars.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 6:05 pm to
It's cinephile.
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