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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:48 am to
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:48 am to
If I were Sansa I'd want to do the same things to him too.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/30/15 at 8:48 am to
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She started out as a spoiled and naive "princess" type who lost her direwolf (to me that has to mean something in GRRM land - like with Robb) through pretty much her own fault and sided with Joffrey over her own family on the trip from Winterfell to King's Landing.

The direwolves definitely served as omens of what will happen to the Starks. Like the stag killing the direwolf mother foreshadowed Ned's death by Joffrey, Nymeria being run off foreshadowed Arya being separated from the Starks and being on the run, when Bran senses that Shaggy Dog was growing more distant ever day foreshadowed Rickon leaving for Skagos, and Ghost starting out being the smallest pup and growing into the biggest direwolf foreshadows Jon's rise from being a bastard to probably the most important man in Westeros.

I've always thought that Ned killing Lady foreshadowed him killing Sansa by giving her to the Lannisters. But now that she is out from under the Lannisters, maybe it's more symbolic of her innocence being "killed" by the Lannisters. A crackpot theory that I guess could happen (but I doubt it) is that it foreshadowed a Stark killing her.

ETA: Or maybe Sansa is killed in the place or because of Ayra, just like Lady was killed for Nymeria's actions.
This post was edited on 5/30/15 at 9:57 am
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:12 pm to
I got a question: why didn't the Wildings just kill Craster long ago? They knew what he was up to with fricking his daughters and sacrificing his sons to the Others, as well providing support to the Night's Watch. He's supporting their two biggest enemies, plus he was doing other things that even the Thenns would find appalling, so why didn't Mance just send out like 5 guys to go kill him?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:17 pm to
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I got a question: why didn't the Wildings just kill Craster long ago? They knew what he was up to with fricking his daughters and sacrificing his sons to the Others, as well providing support to the Night's Watch. He's supporting their two biggest enemies, plus he was doing other things that even the Thenns would find appalling, so why didn't Mance just send out like 5 guys to go kill him?

Wasn't Craster's son offerings basically protection money that he was paying to the Others to keep the Wildlings off his back?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:46 pm to
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Wasn't Craster's son offerings basically protection money that he was paying to the Others to keep the Wildlings off his back?



Personally, I thought it was to keep the Others themselves off his back.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:11 pm to
Have y'all talked about the WWs potentially being former Starks and that they're pissed off because they never got Brandon and Rickard's bodies?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:19 pm to
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Have y'all talked about the WWs potentially being former Starks and that they're pissed off because they never got Brandon and Rickard's bodies?

Ummm...no. And I'm not sure if I even want to hear that crackpot theory.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:25 pm to
It's something I was reading about on AFoIaF earlier.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:26 pm to
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It's something I was reading about on AFoIaF earlier.

I was just kidding. Go ahead and lay it on us (this is the crackpot thread for goodness sakes). I really haven't heard that one yet.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:27 pm to
When a Stark dies, they join the council of the White Walkers. Maybe in the past, when the Starks got old, they left to go "hunting".... But they were going to join their ancestors.

The tombs in Winterfell are empty.

So, to summarize:

The Others wearing the sweet armor: Dead Starks. The Kings Of Winter.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:35 pm to
Considering Bran the Builder was supposedly the founder of House Stark, and he built the Wall to keep the White Walkers out of Westeros, I don't see how the WWs could be Starks if they were around when the 1st Stark was still living.

Posted by Snatchy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 4:05 pm to
Crackpot theories I have for the show...


Jon Snow will not get stabbed, or anything else. They will dump that like they dumped LSH. Beric didn't translate to TV well and DD know that now.

Arya will either kill Littlefinger, Sansa, Cersi, or Tommen. Her arc is setting up a major kill.

One of these three will resurface and provide impact on a larger scale: Greyjoys, Warlocks/shadow binders, and Direwolves.

Gendry will receive a gold medal in the summer Olympic for rowing.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 4:08 pm to
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Arya will either kill Littlefinger, Sansa, Cersi, or Tommen. Her arc is setting up a major kill.



Going with Varys on that.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 4:13 pm to
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Gendry will receive a gold medal in the summer Olympic for rowing.


Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 5:27 pm to
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Considering Bran the Builder was supposedly the founder of House Stark, and he built the Wall to keep the White Walkers out of Westeros, I don't see how the WWs could be Starks if they were around when the 1st Stark was still living.



what if it was a Stark who laid with a white walker? Night's King? Old Nan said his name was Brandon.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 5:31 pm to
Ok, so if WWs are Starks, and R+L=J, then what kind of powers does Jon have as a Targ-Stark?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 5:32 pm to
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Ok, so if WWs are Starks, and R+L=J, then what kind of powers does Jon have as a Targ-Stark?


The song of fire and ice
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 5:36 pm to
What I want to know is over how many years Craster was sacrificing his sons. That would mean the Others never "disappeared" if he had been sacrificing to them for 40 years or so.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 6:12 pm to
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Gendry will receive a gold medal in the summer Olympic for rowing.
It would be funny if the next time we see him, he has huge arms.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:00 pm to
The Night's King was the 13th lord commander of the NW. That is without a doubt him on the show with the crown like head. Old Nan told Bran the nights king story. She said some believe he was a Bolton, a Magnar of Skagos, an Umber, a Flint, a Norrey, or a Woodfoot. However, she says the Night's King was a Stark and brother to the King in the North and she makes reference to his name being Brandon
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