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Courtney Love kills Kurt Cobain in 2015 doc (spoilers)
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:53 pm
I just finished "Soaked in Bleach" (Netflix), and it was damn convincing. I am not the tin foil hat type, but there are some serious red flags. Can anyone explain to me why it is definitely a suicide?
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:02 pm to Snatchy
My wife watched it and now thinks courtney killed him as well.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:10 pm to Snatchy
Now watch Kurt and Courtney if you need more convincing.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:12 pm to Snatchy
Yeah I was always skeptical, but damn if that wasn't a convincing documentary
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:13 pm to Snatchy
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:13 pm to Snatchy
So is your title the spoiler? 
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:14 pm to Snatchy
The PI that Courtney hired became the #1 proponent of the theory that she had him killed. He even started his own website detailing the events leading to his death.
She 100% killed him, and I thing David Geffen was the mastermind. No way that dumb bitch could have pulled this off by herself.
She 100% killed him, and I thing David Geffen was the mastermind. No way that dumb bitch could have pulled this off by herself.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:45 pm to ell_13
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So is your title the spoiler?
Yeah I guess.
It's understood where they are going with the plot fairly quickly
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:50 pm to Snatchy
I had never heard that they were about to get a divorce and she signed a prenup and would be cut out.
The Doc was pretty damning on her rushing to save her lifestyle and her scumbag friends and how she kept them in their lifestyle of drugs, etc. after Kurt died.
It's pretty damning when the guy you hired thinks you are a piece of crap and probably guilty.
The Doc was pretty damning on her rushing to save her lifestyle and her scumbag friends and how she kept them in their lifestyle of drugs, etc. after Kurt died.
It's pretty damning when the guy you hired thinks you are a piece of crap and probably guilty.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:05 pm to Snatchy
I've always thought she murdered him.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:09 pm to Snatchy
Watching it now
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:20 pm to Walt OReilly
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I've always thought she murdered him.
Same here. At the time it happened it was a pretty popular sentiment too. It was always well established that she was bringing him and Nirvana down. People absolutely compared her to Yoko Ono on a regular basis.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:22 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I've been reading everything I can get my hands on, and my conclusion is that this "suicide" should be revisited.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:38 pm to Snatchy
Nivrana's Net worth was valued at $100 million at the time of his death.
Today it is $450 million.
Her prenup was for 100 grand. For a lying white trash junkie whore - is this not the biggest motive in the history of murder?
Let's take a junkie whore and put her on a path to get 100 grand for doing nothing or 400 million for killing? Which road does junkie whore take?
Today it is $450 million.
Her prenup was for 100 grand. For a lying white trash junkie whore - is this not the biggest motive in the history of murder?
Let's take a junkie whore and put her on a path to get 100 grand for doing nothing or 400 million for killing? Which road does junkie whore take?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:30 am to Snatchy
I am 100% convinced Courtney was behind his death.
And the Seattle PD are either the most incompetent big city police department or corrupt as frick.
The fact that the retired chief (who was the chief at the time of Kurt's death) is on record in the documentary calling for a reopening of the investigation speaks volumes.
I thought the film did a good job of weaving in reenactments with Courtney's own words from the tapes the PI made.
And the Seattle PD are either the most incompetent big city police department or corrupt as frick.
The fact that the retired chief (who was the chief at the time of Kurt's death) is on record in the documentary calling for a reopening of the investigation speaks volumes.
I thought the film did a good job of weaving in reenactments with Courtney's own words from the tapes the PI made.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:15 am to Snatchy
After reading this I decided to watch it tonight. I'd sure like to hear CL's rebuttal because they laid out everything from her constant lying, to her motive with the impending divorce/prenup/altered will, to his death being implausible as it was described by police (as a suicide) in a way that seems incredibly damning.
The piece of the puzzle they didn't seem to hit on was how she would have done it. Did she OD him and then just use the shotgun? Is that the implication? Or did she have to have another accomplice? I guess describing a possible murder would be so speculative that you put yourself at legal risk so the documentary makers steered clear.
The piece of the puzzle they didn't seem to hit on was how she would have done it. Did she OD him and then just use the shotgun? Is that the implication? Or did she have to have another accomplice? I guess describing a possible murder would be so speculative that you put yourself at legal risk so the documentary makers steered clear.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:34 am to molsusports
I think even if she didn't pull the trigger, she helped cause it. She may have been the voice telling a tortured soul it was ok to end it...if that makes sense.
She had to have seen some warning signs.
She had to have seen some warning signs.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 3:24 am to Snatchy
The craziest part of the whole thing is that he had so much heroin in him that the gunshot wasn't necessary and a conspiracy theory would be less believable. My guess is she wanted to make sure the job was finished since he didn't die in Rome.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 4:38 am to The Pirate King
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I think even if she didn't pull the trigger, she helped cause it. She may have been the voice telling a tortured soul it was ok to end it...if that makes sense.
She had to have seen some warning signs.
I think that was the conventional wisdom based on things leaked to the media at the time of his death. What surprised me was the allegation by the documentary (or rather, by the detective CL had hired) that the leaks indicating he was suicidal were not factual and appeared to be done by her after his death to divert attention away from a more thorough inspection of his death. An unintentional secondary consequence of this may have been the inspiration his reported suicide provided to some of his teen fans (who subsequently killed themselves).
An unlikely, but fascinating, possibility would have been the ability of one of those bereaved families to sue her. It would have been a very difficult lawsuit to win between showing KC didn't kill himself and that CL did - but the fear of disclosure that CL might have had would have perhaps been enough for her to provide a generous financial settlement rather than disclose many of the details she tried so hard to bury.
If she was there to kill him with the gun she presumably first ODs him with a massive dose of heroin to incapacitate him. The timeline thing they present at the end makes it clear CL wasn't truthful about what she knew when but by itself can't show she was there to do the deed in question.
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 4:39 am
Posted on 12/20/15 at 5:31 am to molsusports
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The piece of the puzzle they didn't seem to hit on was how she would have done it.
She didn't pull the trigger herself. She was in LA "under supervision" when Kurt was shot... A well-respected PI/former cop was even present to confirm her both her alibi and her deep, heartfelt concern for Kurt's well-being.
Primary POI has to be Cali the Nanny/ex-boyfriend... but could've been any number of people that Cobain was comfortable enough with to invite inside his house.
That sheet of handwriting "practice letters" made me say "holy shite" out loud.
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