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Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:18 pm to
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When I was little a show said that and I pitched a shite-fit over it. Scared me to death.


Yeah. It's crazy to think about as a kid because you logically know that that would kill you and be a horrible way to go, but when you express your worry over it to your parents or someone older, they tell you that you'll be long dead by then, and that just freaks you out even more because the inevitability of death has never crossed the mind of a 7 year old. It's an earth shattering moment.
Posted by Drew Orleans
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:28 pm to
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It's an earth engulfing moment.



Yeah it is!
Posted by TotesMcGotes
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 1:37 pm to
Anything on TV that doesn't align with my conservative beliefs is liberal propaganda.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:23 pm to
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Anything on TV that doesn't align with my conservative beliefs is liberal propaganda.


Well, that leaves you with Fox News and Duck Dynasty. I bet your cable bill is lower than mole pussy.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:29 pm to
I watch a lot of Joel Osteen.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:31 pm to
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Even if we could travel at the speed of light, humans would likely evolve into an entirely different species by the time it reached Canis Major Dwarf.



I missed this last night. Anyone know if it is on demand?
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:37 pm to
I'm glad that they kept to the original's absolute ignorance of history.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:54 pm to
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I missed this last night. Anyone know if it is on demand?


LINK
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:55 pm to
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I'm glad that they kept to the original's absolute ignorance of history.

I give you a 5.275 out of 10 on the troll attempt.
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:57 pm to
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I give you a 5.275 out of 10 on the troll attempt.



Not a troll attempt. The original version was great until it made any statement about historical events. It was wrong 99.9% of the time (particularly glaring was the Alexandria episode).

The same absolute disregard for historical accuracy reappeared last night.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:12 pm to
Can also catch it on hulu.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:13 pm to
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The same absolute disregard for historical accuracy reappeared last night.


'Splain.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:18 pm to
I haven't read this thread, but did anyone else catch the factual error? Tyson said that Copernicus was languishling in a jail cell on New Year's Eve, 1600. Copernicus died in 1543.

Seems odd that a show that spent gazillions on CG would not spend a few bucks more for a fact checker.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:22 pm to
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I haven't read this thread, but did anyone else catch the factual error? Tyson said that Copernicus was languishling in a jail cell on New Year's Eve, 1600. Copernicus died in 1543.

Seems odd that a show that spent gazillions on CG would not spend a few bucks more for a fact checker.



I knew there was something off about it, since I thought that would be more of Galileo's time than Copernicus'. I hadn't studied space actively in years, but even I seem to remember that. Seems a bit amateur.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:24 pm to
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I haven't read this thread, but did anyone else catch the factual error? Tyson said that Copernicus was languishling in a jail cell on New Year's Eve, 1600. Copernicus died in 1543.


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I knew there was something off about it, since I thought that would be more of Galileo's time than Copernicus'. I hadn't studied space actively in years, but even I seem to remember that. Seems a bit amateur.



I thought he was talking about Bruno.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:28 pm to
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I thought he was talking about Bruno.
He said Copernicus. I played it back on my DVR just to make sure.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:41 pm to
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He said Copernicus. I played it back on my DVR just to make sure


I just watched it on hulu again. He was talking about Bruno. He said, "Back in 1599, everyone new that we were the center of our little universe... There was only one man on the whole planet who envisioned an infinitely grander cosmos. And how was he spending New Year's Eve of the year 1600? Why in prison of course."

He then discusses Copernicus being in the 16th Century (i.e. the 1500s). "And then, a Polish astronomer and priest named Copernicus made a radical proposal... But for one man, Copernicus didn't go far enough. His name was Giodano Bruno..."

Around the 25 min 30 sec mark, you can see the same prison scene that Tyson mentions back before the commercial break when he said "Why in prison, of course." That scene shows Bruno in prison after he refuses to recant to the Inquisition.

Then he talks about Galileo looking through a telescope 10 years after Bruno's death.

He was definitely talking about Bruno being imprisoned in 1600. Not Copernicus.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:03 pm to
I figure they went with this Bruno fellow because the pointy-hat guys burned him, which they did not do to the famous scientists they persecuted, and if you want to illustrate how evil the church was, it doesn't get much worse than burning.

However, as already mentioned, Bruno wasn't really a scientist, just another kook who had a mystical experience and ran with it. If that wasn't bad enough, they spent time on this Lucretius guy, who put forth a rather lame "proof" that the universe is infinite, which was about as sound as Anselm's "proof" that god exists. Frankly, I thought that whole sequence sucked balls. They should have talked about the guys with the ideas, what motivated them, how they developed their ideas, and the persecution they faced, not some cartoon Bruno I never heard of in my life.
Posted by TheIrishFro
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:44 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/12/23 at 8:29 am
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:42 pm to
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I love how every atheist loves to talk about this stuff while none of those idiots really know anything about it other than what they see on these shows.

They couldn't wrap their mind around it if they tried.



I love how you know the thoughts and intellectual capacity of every atheist.

But you're right, shame on every atheist who can't quite wrap their mind around some of humanity's biggest questions.

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