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China doesn't like Star Wars

Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:35 pm
here's one for you Star Wars haters LINK

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While Disney did market the movie in China, the article notes that the movie may be considered a "rip off" by the Chinese as they are new to Star Wars and have seen similar movies like it in the past 35 years.

China Film Insider even reports younger audiences found Star Wars: The Force Awakens boring, and the movie has failed to be a hit with the younger generation.

"Perhaps what should be most disconcerting to Disney are reports that younger moviegoers in third- and fourth-tier cities, the demographic fueling China’s booming box office and the target of Disney’s marketing bonanza—the foundation for its future success in the country—were confused by the plot and even heard snoring during screenings," the site reports.

Chinese social networks are also responding negatively to Star Wars: The Force Awakens:

“If a science fiction film lacks imagination then what makes it different from a soap opera? The story was completely in service to fans of the original trilogy and it only relied on razzle-dazzle effects. The most laughable element is that all the force in the galaxy could belong to one family. Creating nostalgia while introducing a new conceptual story doesn’t have to conflict.”

In other words, unless you're a Star Wars fanboy who just wants to relive nostalgia from the original series, you probably won't like this.

LINK
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China Box Office: 'Star Wars' Loses Weekend to Chinese Film 'Boonie Bears 3'

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The decline came after Chinese exhibitors steadily reduced screenings to make room for Chinese film Boonie Bears 3, a relatively low-budget local animated feature. Based on a popular CCTV animated series and produced by Fantawild Holdings and LeVision Pictures, Boonie Bears 3 earned $15.08 million on Saturday and Sunday and had grossed a total of $20.07 as of Monday, including preview screenings. It received roughly 10 percent more showings than Force Awakens over the weekend

Anyone seen Boonie Bears 3 yet? It might be really good, I don't know.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:36 pm to
They love transformers. Enough said.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98982 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:36 pm to
So apparently 1 billion Chinese can be wrong.
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:38 pm to
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China doesn't like black people
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:38 pm to
Should've cast Stephon Marbury as Finn.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:38 pm to
Trump is right about China. They gotta be dealt with.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35497 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:40 pm to
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China Film Insider even reports younger audiences found Star Wars: The Force Awakens boring, and the movie has failed to be a hit with the younger generation


I can understand stand that.

The entire film is a nostalgia flick and a fan homage.

If you aren't familiar with the originals...it's not that great. The characters don't mean much to you and they are probably wondering, who are these old people and why should I care?

It's a little like how America went gaga for Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and it was just a run-of-the-mill movie in the Far East.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:42 pm to
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China doesn't like black people



But my mom says there's a lot of black people in China
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35497 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:53 pm to
Yeah, China isn't a good place - there was an article in the WSJ, that Hollywood doesn't really export African-American centered movies because they get rejected overseas - especially in Asia.

Worst Countries for Black People to travel to: LINK

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China

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A person of African descent traveling to China should not be surprised if they are repeatedly stared at or even swarmed by crowds of curious Chinese who will ask questions that reflect their ignorance and lack of interaction with Black people.

Racism against Blacks may be the strongest form of prejudice in China. Many people in China look down upon other Chinese of darker skin, and believe the whiter skin has more beauty.

In China, Black people are viewed through stereotypes, and most Chinese assume Blacks are poor, uneducated, violent, play basketball, are barbaric and wild, and even eat each other. The most common Chinese slur used against Black people means “black ghost.”


Still can't believe that a black lead would cause this...

Most likely they have no connection to a fan-film.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39190 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:57 pm to
I knew the Chinese would hate Finn. Its weird how Hollywood wants to have more diverse casts, but also wants to break into the Chinese market which doesn't want diverse casts. I wouldn't expect a black lead character in the next Transformers movie. They do love the Fast and Furious movies though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:02 pm to
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In China, Black people are viewed through stereotypes, and most Chinese assume Blacks are poor, uneducated, violent, play basketball, are barbaric and wild, and even eat each other.


what
the
frick
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:04 pm to
it's not just the black lead

the movie was an homage/nostalgia bomb and since the OT was just released there, it likely comes off as shitty pirating

also certain nuance and conflict doesn't translate to china. their culture is very black/white (please excuse the pun) with respect to morality
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98982 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:06 pm to
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In China, Black people are viewed through stereotypes, and most Chinese assume Blacks are poor, uneducated, violent, play basketball, are barbaric and wild, and even eat each other.


what
the
frick


I know, right. Not ALL black people play basketball.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:11 pm to
sometimes i guess you need to see legit racism to remember what it is
Posted by Peazey
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Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:18 pm to
I understand that they are a big market and all, but why are we relying on a bunch of commies to determine quality?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18385 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:26 pm to
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I understand that they are a big market and all, but why are we relying on a bunch of commies to determine quality?


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I understand that they are a big market and all


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big market


They don't really influence our perception of quality, but they're going to have a say in how future movies are made.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108296 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:35 pm to
The average Chinese person wouldn't know a good film if it slapped them in the face. They really don't like movies of moral ambiguity or that have any black stars (save Will Smith and his ilk). Really the average Chinese person just wants to be spoonfed a story. All they care about is the fact that the bad guys are just bad, the good guys win, and that there are tons of explosions with no real stakes.

It really isn't in this movie's favor that the bad guys are a brutal dictatorship who hate democracy and have soldiers trained to uniformly not question brutal orders. I'm sure that rings some bells over there. And then when the black guy is the one to defect, I'm sure that pissed them off.

To be fair they're right in that this was a movie made for pretty much nothing but the fans of the original trilogy, but really the Chinese as a whole haven't seen the original trilogy. I can't remember seeing Star Wars in too many DVD stores I visited. They really haven't had an exposure to the franchise. My thoughts before this film was released was that it would do just ok and that the Chinese would go see it just to see why America loved the franchise. They have no real context to anything and it's not engrained into their culture as it is in ours. So this should have been expected by Disney.

Even if they were to release the OT in theaters over there, there are 3 reasons they won't like it:

1) The effects aren't all that cool anymore and outdated.
2) The bad guys form a brutal dictatorship
3) The Chinese audience would utterly despise The Empire Strike Back, which is the glue that holds the franchise together. It's a film that is aimless and has moral ambiguity, and doesn't help that the bad guys work for a dictator. Not to mention there's a black person in it trying to hook up with a white chick. I'm confident the average Chinese person would hate the movie.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108296 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:38 pm to
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In China, Black people are viewed through stereotypes, and most Chinese assume Blacks are poor, uneducated, violent, play basketball, are barbaric and wild, and even eat each other.


what
the
frick


Living over there, entirely true. Had a black friend, and he was treated much, much differently than we were. Happened at least once a week where we were walking down the street and someone would start running in terror. People constantly pulled him aside to take pictures as well. On the positive side we'd lie to bouncers at nightclubs and get in for free by saying our friend played for the NBA. Nightclubs were the only places where you'd get perks as a black man in China. I'd never advise anyone who was black to travel to China.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:41 pm to
i know they're racist (and not just towards black people. they're racist towards everybody including other asian ethnicities)

i never knew they were fricking retarded
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:42 pm to
Well it also had the biggest opening weekend of all time in China.

And while it had a big drop, it was the lowest of all the films (% wise). LINK

I wonder if that Chinese site is conjuring up propaganda to get more support for the Chinese films.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 8:44 pm
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