re: Can we discuss the ridiculousness of 8 Mile?

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I have a better question. What ever happened to Curtis Hanson? I thought the dude was going to be one of the next good directors. He dropped off the face of the earth after this.

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I know that TD was a hell of a lot less confrontational in '15 but I can't believe that nobody (me included) called out Fun Bunch for acting like 8 Mile was a movie that should have pushed Curtis Hanson into the realm of "the next good directors" when he had already done movies like The Hand That Rocks The Cradle, LA Confidential, and Wonder Boys.

Wow, I forgot all about this thread.

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But see saying this, or even having this opinion, shows that you didn’t understand the “awesome-ness” of what had just transpired. First off he didn’t walk off the stage, he choked. He does the exact thing that his free world boys (and even him in the beginning of the movie rap battle) ridicule and diss Eminem for, choking. One of the reasons why they had no respect for Eminem at all was bc they thought b rabbit was fake, acting like he was good at rapping, but yet he always choked every time he tried battling before that last scene. That aspect and detail of the scene was essentially the point of the entire movie and highlighted the complete 360 of B rabbits rap “career”. Not only did he not choke this night, but he also was so good that he won the prior 2 rounds and was in the championship. He goes from choking and being boo’ed off stage, to making the current, undefeated Rap Battle Champ (Papa Doc) choke and get boo’ed off stage.
And the reason he choked was not because he thought Eminem “disrespected” the rules (as if it’s some formal event anyways) it’s because of what Eminem just got done rapping. Eminem took any and every angle away from papa doc and left him with literally NOTHING to rap about. He couldn’t diss Em for anything bc Em just acknowledged all of that and showed it doesn’t mean shite anymore. Ok so maybe papa doc won’t diss Em then, he will just rap and talk about street life and being a thug or whatever else is cool for a rapper… well papa doc couldn’t go that route either bc Eminem also just exposed the shite out of Papa Doc proving how his thug street life demeanor was nothing more than a facade, he wasn’t even from the hood, he went to a private school.
B rabbit, a white guy from the hood, proved to a crowd of all black people that he was more like them than any of the black rapper/s that literally just spent an entire night trying to diss him for being white and an outsider that wasn’t welcome. When in reality, papa doc and the entire free world crew were the real outsiders that didn’t belong. Hints why B rabbit starts his final rap off with
“Now everybody from the 313 (the hood they were in) throw your motherfrickin hands up and follow me…”
and you see the entire crowd with their hands up and Eminem and Future and cheddar Bob; pretty much everyone there except Papa Doc and the free world crew…. So he continues saying
“now while he (Papa Doc) stands tough, notice that this man (pointing at Papa Doc) DID NOT have his hands up”….
Bc papa doc didn’t/couldn’t rep 31third like everyone there. He was a part of Free World. It’s genius really.
This white guy, who the audience has only ever seen choke and embarrass himself, just explained with proof, and answered for every single diss and stereo type that’s ever been used against him. Still though these rappers just couldn’t help themselves from repeating the same shite ….
“Pay attention meat head, you’re saying the same shite that he said”….
But the crowd kept giving them credit bc even though it’s repetitive it never really gets old when ridiculing the outsider who doesn’t belong.
But it all changed in one verse when the crowd learned the truth. Papa doc was a “halfway crook” bc his reputation and career was based off of lies.
That’s why Papa Doc walked off stage, not bc he felt the rules weren’t followed. But bc without the played out easy diss lyrics available, he no longer had the rap skills or talent capable of forming his own original disses

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Thanks for explaining all of the very obvious things that everyone who’s seen the movie knows and understands completely. I guess.

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Also not sure how such an old thread popped up on Google when I typed “8 miles final rap scene” but I saw the tigerdroppings link and had to click, and I have to admit; I am not even the slightest bit embarrassed about entertaining such an old thread… a solid post and good topic for debate/conversation is timeless.

Lol, just in case you were wondering how the heck or why the heck I would comment on such an old thread. I swear I didn’t stalk your post history lmao…

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Makes sense. I feel like when I do these kinds of threads, people miss the tongue-in-cheek aspect of them a good bit.

Lol I was young when I really enjoyed this movie and it was pretty much before the age of social media (I think) so it was rare/cool seeing someone “arguing” and disrespecting one another and doing it pretty clever-“ly”. Nowadays it prob wouldn’t be so cool to see that since arguing and shite talking idiots constantly bombard you or someone else nonstop via social media. Also since I was young, Eminem was kind of the explicit “no-no” guy to listen to so having parents that knew I was educated enough to not be easily influenced allowing me to have his cd or to watch this movie; kind of made me “cool” and a lot of times friends would come over just for those reasons (catholic school kid so a lot of my friends had real strict parents)… so all of those factors kind of made this movie one of my favorites back then and I watched it so much that I started picking up on some non obvious things in the movie and how certain scenes connected throughout the movie and what all the rap lines meant etc. i know it’s silly now of course but back then it wasn’t… and my YouTube algorithm suggested the final rap battle scene and so I watched it then googled the lyrics and this thread somehow popped up and bam that was it; I suddenly found myself deep down a rabbit hole of nostalgia. Lol.

But yeah that sound track sounds horrible. Lol

How much adderall did you take?

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Just play fricking music videos for a start..different genres for different time slots. Live concerts, bios, events around music, 30 for 30 style stories around music, etc

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MTV Classic is this exactly

8 Mile turns 20 this November.

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Why did i just read all of this?

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I tried. Had to bail after some lickety bloopity bullshite.

I would say you’re a better man than me, but if you read all that crap…we know that’s not true.

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Lickety demolishes Rabbit

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Lickety definitely won.

Best line of the entire movie was at the beginning when Lil Tic said "He the type to lose a fight with a dyke"

Eminem is a dumbass