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Breaking Bad - what was Gus' big mistake? (BB Spoilers of course)
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:37 pm
Something to tide us over until tonight's BCS episode.
I think Gus missed a chance to calm things down when he got back from icing the Cartel Dons. They were the ones pushing for Walt's death. With them gone it seems like he could have mended fences with Walt instead of deciding to kill him and use only Jesse. I know Walt was something of a loose canon but it seems like they could have found some commonly profitable ground.
I think Gus missed a chance to calm things down when he got back from icing the Cartel Dons. They were the ones pushing for Walt's death. With them gone it seems like he could have mended fences with Walt instead of deciding to kill him and use only Jesse. I know Walt was something of a loose canon but it seems like they could have found some commonly profitable ground.
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:39 pm to Methuselah
He should have known better than to get involved with a junkie. Gale's stuff was good enough.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:56 pm to Methuselah
He should have just killed Walt and Jesse. The only reason he didn't was because the cook was so good. But he could have just sold regular meth and other stuff and done quite well without the headache.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:00 pm to Kracka
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He should have just killed Walt and Jesse.
Exactly what I was coming to post.
If Gus had made a different decision in Boxcutter then he would still be king.
You don't risk your empire for a 3% purity difference.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:06 pm to Methuselah
Gus was done with Walter after he killed those 2 drug dealers. There was no smoothing over after that, Walt made it clear he was not to be trusted.
Gus' downfall was his rivalry with Hector. Had he sent one of his men to take Hector out, he'd still be alive and his men would've eventually killed Walt. His vengeance made him predictable and blind to Walt's strategy, and that was literally the only shot Walter had at getting him.
Gus' downfall was his rivalry with Hector. Had he sent one of his men to take Hector out, he'd still be alive and his men would've eventually killed Walt. His vengeance made him predictable and blind to Walt's strategy, and that was literally the only shot Walter had at getting him.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:06 pm to nes2010
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He should have known better than to get involved with a junkie
Agreed. He even said as much himself early in the show but didn't follow his own advice.
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Gale's stuff was good enough.
Had Gale actually been cooking for him? I kinda assumed that Gale had been brought in to set up the lab and Gus was getting his stuff from Mexico or other sources.
In any event, to paraphrase another Gus from another show, Gale was far too leaky a vessel to put much hope in.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:11 pm to Methuselah
Messing with this guy.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:12 pm to Methuselah
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Had Gale actually been cooking for him? I kinda assumed that Gale had been brought in to set up the lab and Gus was getting his stuff from Mexico or other sources.
They had a flashback opening in one episode that showed Gale in the laundromat lab telling Gus that he was intimidated but the purity of Walts meth and basically talking Gus into bringing in Walt to teach him how to get it that pure. It might have been the box cutter episode because I think he was opening the lab equipment with the box cutter.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:14 pm to Methuselah
Maybe having this note left on Mike's car:
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:16 pm to Methuselah
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In any event, to paraphrase another Gus from another show, Gale was far too leaky a vessel to put much hope in.
Augustus McCrae!!! GOAT miniseries. Best line from that show: "By God Woodrow, it's not dyin I'm talkin about. It's livin!"
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:16 pm to The 25 Jersey
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Gus' downfall was his rivalry with Hector. Had he sent one of his men to take Hector out, he'd still be alive and his men would've eventually killed Walt
Not so much the rivalry, but letting his pride get the best of him. But as you stated, he could have easily had Tyrus do the job.
Just like Sonny Corleone driving off to help his sister instead of maintaining a clear head and being cautious at all times.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:32 pm to Methuselah
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what was Gus' big mistake?
Pride.
Wanting the best and being careless to obtain.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:48 pm to The 25 Jersey
quote:It wasn't just a rivalry with Hector. It was deep-down hatred from when Gus's lover/partner was killed. There was no way Gus was going to let Hector die without personally witnessing it.
Gus' downfall was his rivalry with Hector. Had he sent one of his men to take Hector out, he'd still be alive and his men would've eventually killed Walt. His vengeance made him predictable and blind to Walt's strategy, and that was literally the only shot Walter had at getting him.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:18 pm to Methuselah
he was just too greedy in the end. He saw the warning signs with Walt and chose to ignore them because of purity of the product. Granted he tried to go another route with Jesse but that obviously didn't work out. So I still go back to his base level of greed that did him in.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:54 pm to johnnydrama
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It wasn't just a rivalry with Hector. It was deep-down hatred from when Gus's lover/partner was killed. There was no way Gus was going to let Hector die without personally witnessing it.
Yeah. I think he harbored hatred of both Hector and that Don for killing his partner and never got past it and it led to his personal emotions being put before his business interests.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 4:50 pm to The 25 Jersey
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Gus was done with Walter after he killed those 2 drug dealers. There was no smoothing over after that, Walt made it clear he was not to be trusted.
They killed Thomas after Gus ordered them "No more children." If Gus had taken care of those two scumbags himself, he and Walt and Jesse might have all lived happily ever after.
Half Measures/Full Measure was maybe the best TV I had ever seen.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 5:13 pm to Methuselah
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what was Gus' big mistake?
He should have never fricked with Walt. Walt was a dying man with a DGAF attitude
Posted on 5/1/17 at 6:46 pm to LanierSpots
Walt was the cancer of everyone with any real role on Breaking Bad.
I wish the cancer killed him in S1 in "reality." But since it isn't reality, it made for good television.
But seriously, frick Walter White.
I wish the cancer killed him in S1 in "reality." But since it isn't reality, it made for good television.
But seriously, frick Walter White.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:44 pm to Methuselah
Sure there were a series of mistakes Gus made, but the big one is when he openly threatened Walt and his family after dragging him to a desert. This pushed Walt to another level and the rest is history.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 6:38 am to Methuselah
Walt and Gus had the same fatal flaw. They were overly prideful in their pursuit of perfection while often being blinded by personal devotions (Jesse for Walt and revenge for Gus' lover for Gus).
The point of Gus was to show what Walt would become. A mirage of success on a collision course with death.
The only difference between the two is Gus was blinded by emotion first with Hector and Walt was waiting.
The point of Gus was to show what Walt would become. A mirage of success on a collision course with death.
The only difference between the two is Gus was blinded by emotion first with Hector and Walt was waiting.
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