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re: Boogie Nights… Goodfellas ripoff

Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22857 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:09 pm to
Best line and best character in the movie. Phillip Baker Hall is criminally underrated as an actor. He can do drama, comedy, anything. Larry David always said he was by far the funniest guest star they ever had on Seinfeld.
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16518 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:59 pm to
Loved the Boogie Nights soundtrack.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49524 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

Phillip Baker Hall


Check out PTA's "Hard Eight" if you haven't. Really good in that one.

Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8249 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:49 pm to
Ripoff how? Like porn and the mafia are the same? No. I don't know. You typed it.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76552 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 1:04 am to
I've never made the connection between the two movies.

TBH I'm not a fan of Boogie. No desire to ever see it again.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:14 am to
Somewhat off topic, but why didn't Ray Liotta have more success? He was great in Goodfellas. Is that just because of Scorsese making him look good?

Also - is there a general consensus that Goodfellas was Scorsese's best? I feel strongly that it was but don't know how other people look at it.
Posted by Richard Castle
St. George, La.
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:35 am to
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Now go home and get your fukking shine box



Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:16 am to
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but why didn't Ray Liotta have more success? He was great in Goodfellas. Is that just because of Scorsese making him look good?

I did a search since I couldn't recall seeing him in anything lately other than Killing Them Softly, and he's pretty active lately. Just a lot of supporting roles or lesser known movies I guess. I don't know why he never became a big name. Maybe he's just not interesting enough, like there's nothing particularly special or unique about him maybe.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89619 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

why didn't Ray Liotta have more success? He was great in Goodfellas. Is that just because of Scorsese making him look good?


Nah - it's clear he had the goods - in fact, it's a "preselection" thing - you see how Marty generally picks high quality folks to work with.

When you have a gap in "consciousness" like that - sometimes we know (like RDJ), but I always suspect an "insurability" issue (either drugs/alcohol and/or a volatile nature that causes delays, disruptions and cost overruns) - unless there is a clear explanation the other way - i.e. focus on stage work, illness, focus on the family for a few years, etc.

That isn't the case with Liotta. He's worked - a lot. I think part of it is typecasting. He had some decent performances as villains and supporting roles, but just never captured the magic of Goodfellas - but who else did? Pesci was great in Casino (a de facto Goodfellas sequel) and My Cousin Vinny. But, never equaled what he did in Goodfellas.

Bobby is Bobby, but if Liotta was made by Marty, Bobby DAMNED sure was made by Marty - certainly 5 of his top 10 performances were directed by Marty.

So, there's that.
This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 3:39 pm to
and I have no problem with that.
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