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re: Atom spinoff is official (arrow spoiler in write up )

Posted on 2/27/15 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by Puck82
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 6:26 pm to
Stein on atom Ronny on flash. They crossover easily when needed
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 6:47 pm to
But that would mean that Firestorm wouldn't be on but a few episodes of each show, especially if the Atom spinoff is in a different city than Central City. I guess I could see that, especially having just Stein on the Atom. But Ronnie would basically become useless on Flash except for the occasional Caitlin arc (which would get old if that is all he is there for).

I guess another option is that Stein and Ronnie figure out a way to for each of them to turn into Firestorm without combining.

Either that or they hurry up and jump to the Firestorm storyline to Mikhail Arkadin or Jason Rusch (most likely Rusch) and Ronnie, and Stein is no longer a necessary part of Firestorm.
This post was edited on 2/27/15 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 8:09 pm to
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Who could the three major characters be? Of Course it can't be Superman, Batman, or Wonderwoman since they've all been part of past tv series. Green Lantern is the first that pops in my head. But who else?


Is this where the Nightwing rumors come back?

Booster Gold? Blue Beetle?
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 9:51 pm to
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Is this where the Nightwing rumors come back?

Booster Gold? Blue Beetle?

If they are still planning on the Teen Titan's show, then I doubt Nightwing is on the table for both shows. Now if Teen Titans has hit a snag, then he is definitely a possibility. Regardless we need Nightwing on tv.

If Blue Beetle is a possibility, then why didn't DC let them use Blue Beetle on Arrow instead of Palmer like the showrunners originally wanted? If DC ends up letting them use Blue Beetle on a spinoff starring the character that was suppose to be him, it would seem to me to appear extremely short sighted of DC, maybe even outright negligent on their part when it comes to foresight.

Booster Gold would be an interesting choice. I liked the character in the comics, but could they find an actor that could pull him off and make him believable? I would love to see him if they can pull him off.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 2/27/15 at 10:33 pm to
Vixen
Fire
Bumblebee
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:20 pm to
Im really just seeing this. been a crazy week.

Vixen is a really good guess since she has her own animated show thats going to be connected to the flash/arrow universe.

booster gold is another highly likely choice. flash is dealing a lot with time travel and apparently kreisberg tried to make a show about booster some years ago.

other than that, it really depends on what direction they want to go with this show. they could introduce martian manhunter.

maxwell lord could be another interesting choice that could easily work within their framework.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:33 pm to
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If Blue Beetle is a possibility, then why didn't DC let them use Blue Beetle on Arrow instead of Palmer like the showrunners originally wanted? If DC ends up letting them use Blue Beetle on a spinoff starring the character that was suppose to be him, it would seem to me to appear extremely short sighted of DC, maybe even outright negligent on their part when it comes to foresight.


It's a part of being in their business. They had similar challenges with the Timm animated series (since they ended up going on through two decades). They had development deals going for Aquaman, which restricted his appearing as a regular member of the animated Justice League and JLU series. Same thing with the secondary Batman characters. It's why Batgirl and Robin weren't in the JLU and Nightwing was restricted to one Easter Egg appearance.

For all that we know, they could be trying to iron out whatever deals they had out there for Blue Beetle. Even with Atom taking his place on Arrow, I'd love to see Blue Beetle added to the CW shows down the line.
Posted by HeavyCore
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:59 pm to
Ugghh.....I just really don't like The Atom
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:16 am to
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First off like everyone has already said, Caity Lotz? I guess Lazarus pits?


Just to make sure you guys understand how this works, but Caity Lotz is an actress that is still alive. Sara Lance was a character on a TV show played by Caity Lotz that was killed. That should not preclude the actress Caity Lotz from appearing in a different TV show as a different character.
This post was edited on 3/1/15 at 11:18 am
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 12:13 pm to
Emily Bitt Rickards gets my vote for luckiest minor casting choice made in years. She was hired for one or two episodes of Arrow but they liked her on set so much they kept bringing her back and she's now the second lead of the show. Not to mention she's helped kick start interest in two spinoffs!

She's like the Anti-Summer Glau when it comes to show success.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:42 pm to
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That should not preclude the actress Caity Lotz from appearing in a different TV show as a different character.


except its set in the same universe. thats like if Stephen Amell just randomly showed up as Booster Gold in this show yet he still plays Arrow.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 1:47 pm to
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Just to make sure you guys understand how this works, but Caity Lotz is an actress that is still alive. Sara Lance was a character on a TV show played by Caity Lotz that was killed. That should not preclude the actress Caity Lotz from appearing in a different TV show as a different character.

This new show is part of the same universe as Arrow. And I'm assuming will have character crossovers on all three shows. So yeah, she could play a new character. But it would look kind of weird having her possibly interacting with characters that she interacted with as Sara.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 7:28 pm to
They did that on Deadwood (had the same actor play two major characters). It never clicked for me.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:45 pm to
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except its set in the same universe. thats like if Stephen Amell just randomly showed up as Booster Gold in this show yet he still plays Arrow.


There's a couple of big differences. 1) Amell plays the LEAD character of Oliver Queen/Arrow. 2) His character is still alive and may cross over to the new series, so having him play different characers on 2 shows wouldn't really work.

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They did that on Deadwood (had the same actor play two major characters). It never clicked for me.


Now you are talking about the same show. That's different. Here we are talking about 2 different shows, that while set in the same "universe" and may have some minimal cross over (I haven't watched the Flash, but with Arrow, there's what, 1 time so far in season 3, a couple in season 2 that set up the Flash). It is not like they cross over weekly or half the episodes even.

FWIW both Jerry Orbach and S. Epatha Merkerson played different characters on Law and Order. They appeared as weekly guests and were later brought back as cast members.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:28 pm to
There is absolutely no way they bring back Lotz for any character other than Sara. These show runners are way to smart for that and it would spit in the face of everything they are trying to do with the tvDCU.
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Now you are talking about the same show. That's different. Here we are talking about 2 different shows, that while set in the same "universe" and may have some minimal cross over (I haven't watched the Flash, but with Arrow, there's what, 1 time so far in season 3, a couple in season 2 that set up the Flash). It is not like they cross over weekly or half the episodes even.

FWIW both Jerry Orbach and S. Epatha Merkerson played different characters on Law and Order. They appeared as weekly guests and were later brought back as cast members.
yeah, but they are in different cities. Arrow and Atom are both in Starling City.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:51 pm to
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There is absolutely no way they bring back Lotz for any character other than Sara. These show runners are way to smart for that and it would spit in the face of everything they are trying to do with the tvDCU.


If they do bring Sara back, then that would be enormously lame. Having Lotz play a different character in a different show is no big deal. I find it kinda funny you guys are upset about this, but ok with them changing Oliver from having spent 5 years on an Island, to 2 years, then onto Hong Kong with a day trip to Starling City.

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yeah, but they are in different cities. Arrow and Atom are both in Starling City.


So, its a big city right? Unless an Atom show has those characters in the same locations all the time as Arrow's characters, the on screen interaction will be limited, besides the fact that it may be DIFFERENT characters. I'm mean Oliver and company do not know Caity Lotz
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 4:53 pm
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:53 pm to
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I find it kinda funny you guys are upset about this, but ok with them changing Oliver from having spent 5 years on an Island, to 2 years, then onto Hong Kong with a day trip to Starling City.
How is that in any way similar?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:57 pm to
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yeah, but they are in different cities. Arrow and Atom are both in Starling City.


In the comics, Ray Palmer operates out of Boston.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:59 pm to
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How is that in any way similar?


They are not, one cheats on the story that was told for 2 years, the other HAS NO BEARING on the plot what so ever and involves casting on a different show.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 5:23 pm
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