re: A24's Civil War - Spoiler Thread... eventually

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The fact this got up votes is pretty telling that half this board lives in fantasy land rather than real life. This wasn't the movie at all

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There's definitely a segment on here that seems hellbent on being perceived as persecuted no matter what.

i'm really surprised there hasn't been more discussion on this board about this movie. it seemed like there was a lot of interest over the past few months. it seems only a handful of the people here have seen it.

Did anyone else notice that the WF helicopters in the final scenes still had First Cav (Fort Hood) insignia, with a simple "WF" stencil in white added to the nose?

If the WF had time to manufacture and sell 2-star flags, you would think they could have done a better job re-marking their birds.

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A lot of people keep saying the Jessie Plemons was wearing a military uniform, but I looked very carefully and he was wearing no insignia whatsoever. Seemed more like a free-agent Ratko Mladic than a member of any of the Balkanized military units.

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As I sat in the theater, I just could not figure that suicide bomber in NYC that exploded himself at the truck distributing water. He ran onto the screen carrying an (original) American flag, which made not sense to me at the time since it was happening in NYC. It took me half the film to realize that the WF already had control of NYC, despite the map reflected in the window showing that area still in control of DC. Doh. But I still don't understand the suicide bomber element, because that sort of nutcase is usually a religious zealot, and the Offerman government just didn't seem like one that would give rise to religious extremists in its supporters.

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I was also puzzled that the WF forces had standing orders to kill President Offerman. From equipment and tactics, it was obvious that those were originally US regular Army troops, with the concomitant training and mindset ... inconsistent with those orders. I concluded that the VP had surrendered to the WF along with the US generals and was willing to work the WF after the war. Leaving Offerman alive would have created major structural roadblocks to making that happen, while killing Offerman would leave him as undisputed POTUS of the rump US.

I continue to be baffled by everyone asking "what was Garland's message?"

He used a World War Z (the book) vignette approach to show EVERY form of extremism from anywhere in the world in the last few decades, taking place HERE. His message was (to me) clear. This (bad) stuff can happen anywhere.

Suicide bomber? check
Burning tire necklacing? check
Breakdown of the electrical grid? check
Refugee columns along roadways? check
Neighbors killing/torturing one another? check
Ethnic cleansing? check
Etcetera

I half expected for us to witness a rape at the refugee center in the football stadium.

Most of this "bad stuff" made no sense in the context of the war/scenario that he created. That was not the point. It was SUPPOSED to be confusing, because this sort of war IS confusing. Each vignette didn't have to be realistic in its specific setting. Seriously, how do you "realistically" set ethnic cleansing in Pennsylvania? Find an antagonist who hates the Amish for some odd reason? Garland just wanted you to think about it happening within our borders, because it CAN happen anywhere.

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Yet this movie was portrayed as white people bad and their president is a fascist.

This is basically a movie to warn you what happens if you vote for Trump. It’s a left wing fantasy.

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so have we actually seen the movie yet or

So I just got out of it and beanie boi is either trolling or an idiot

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DC is held by white supremacist stormtroopers

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Literally zero indication of the US government being white supremacists, bro just making shite up

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The boogaloo boys shoot at the cops,

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A few dudes in Hawaiian shirts get in a fire fight with an unknown enemy and the dudes are pretty diverse racially

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rednecks are everywhere,

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One scene at a gas station in rural Pennsylvania

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only extremists the main characters encounter are right wingers

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Also zero indication that these guys are right wingers once again Beanie boy lies

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the military force that restores order is comically diverse

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The force? The Western Forces of citizens from Texas and Cali being not all white? Well I’m shocked it’s not like either state has a large minority population

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kill pseudo-Trump in the White House.

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They kill the authoritarian dictator president literally zero reasons to believe he’s in anyway a reference to Trump aside from dumbass paranoia

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Should have been re-written with a focus on the cause and battles of the civil war.

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I think Garland’s point of the movie was to show what a real war in America would look like. A lot of shite gets said about people wanting a civil war but the cold truth is that a war torn America would be a nightmare and we see that through the most apolitical way which are photojournalists.

If the movie gave away everything that caused the war than the focus would be on the why and not the result. It’s a pretty genius way to avoid unnecessary conflict

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Any thoughts on the significance of the colored hair and fingernails of the sniper and spotter?

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Had to be with the same guys as the Hawaiian shirts a few scenes before. The same colors were on a wall from that scene. Almost looked like a powdered grenade had went off there or something.

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getting his followers into Congress and finding Yes Men for the Supreme Court.

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President has super majority in Congress

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Essentially a complete breakdown of the checks and balances. I could see a breakdown of the checks and balances as a cause for a civil war in the US.