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Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:37 pm to RollTide1987
Cracked just had an article about his North review 
that amount of hate for that movie is perplexing
that amount of hate for that movie is perplexing
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:45 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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I could poop on a blank strip of film, project it on a screen, and it would make for a better viewing experience than Armageddon.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:47 pm to TigerMyth36
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Take out the sappy scene with Tyler and Afleck and the movie isn't horrible
Yes, it is, and regardless, that scene IS in the movie.
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Although I did prefer Deep Impact in the battle of killer asteroid flicks.
Never saw it, but I agree.
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:48 pm to BigBrian774
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I think he generally hated all Adam Sandler
...and he was hoping Waterboy would turn that around...alas it did not:
"I believe in giving every movie the benefit of the doubt. I walked into ``The Waterboy,'' sat down, took a sip of my delicious medium roast coffee and felt at peace with the world. How nice it would be, I thought, to give Adam Sandler a good review for a change. Goodwill and caffeine suffused my being, and as the lights went down I all but beamed at the screen.
Then Adam Sandler spoke, and all was lost."
Waterboy - 1 star
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:51 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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I could poop on a blank strip of film, project it on a screen, and it would make for a better viewing experience than Armageddon.
Roger Ebert everybody.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 2:05 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Just out of curiosity, why are a select few (like siskel and ebert for instance) given so much clout when it comes to something as trivial as reviewing a movie? I mean, other than watching a shite ton of movies what are his credentials, why should we put any stock in this guy?
Everybody in the world has an opinion. And if you are a reasonably intelligent, somewhat cultured individual, it seems like it'd be pretty easy to watch a movie, give a few high points, a few criticisms, then slap a star rating on it. So why is ebert considered an all time great in the field?
Everybody in the world has an opinion. And if you are a reasonably intelligent, somewhat cultured individual, it seems like it'd be pretty easy to watch a movie, give a few high points, a few criticisms, then slap a star rating on it. So why is ebert considered an all time great in the field?
Posted on 4/5/13 at 2:11 pm to WG_Dawg
Those guys pioneered the industry
Thats like asking why we take physics advice from Newton
Thats like asking why we take physics advice from Newton
Posted on 4/5/13 at 2:20 pm to WG_Dawg
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Just out of curiosity, why are a select few (like siskel and ebert for instance) given so much clout when it comes to something as trivial as reviewing a movie? I mean, other than watching a shite ton of movies what are his credentials, why should we put any stock in this guy?
This question would have more merit if you asked it in 1970. Ebert has been giving reviews for so long that a lot of people are genuinely interested to see how current movies rank/rate from his perspective.
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 4/5/13 at 2:22 pm to wildtigercat93
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Thats like asking why we take physics advice from Newton
But newton did something nobody else could do at the time. He used math and science to figure shite out. A movie critic just watches a 2 hour film and tells what he liked or didn't like about it.
I guess I will put some stock into the "pioneer in the field" argument, but I mean it's not like there is ANY special skill required to do it. I could be the pioneer of reviewing which pasta sauce I like best with different types of noodles, but that doesn't mean I should be taken any more seriously on the subject that anyone else who eats at home in their own kitchen. I certainly wouldn't expect people all over the country to credit me as an authority on the subject.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 2:23 pm to WG_Dawg
My thing with critics is that they play follow the leader.
It's like you HAVE to vote foreign or indie films as the best of the year. It's almost forbidden to really like a popcorn flick. I can't imagine how many critics are sit in a theatre and are enjoying a film but write a mediocre review because that's what everybody else did.
Here's the 2013 highest rated films so far
LINK
That's why there have been so many films bashed by critics that turn out to be some of the greatest movies there is.
One guy gives a good review. Then another. Then two years later a few more do. Then other critics are like yeah I like that too. Then 15 years rates every critic considers it one of the best films of the past 15 years.
It's like you HAVE to vote foreign or indie films as the best of the year. It's almost forbidden to really like a popcorn flick. I can't imagine how many critics are sit in a theatre and are enjoying a film but write a mediocre review because that's what everybody else did.
Here's the 2013 highest rated films so far
LINK
That's why there have been so many films bashed by critics that turn out to be some of the greatest movies there is.
One guy gives a good review. Then another. Then two years later a few more do. Then other critics are like yeah I like that too. Then 15 years rates every critic considers it one of the best films of the past 15 years.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 2:24 pm to hiltacular
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Ebert has been giving reviews for so long that a lot of people are genuinely interested to see how current movies rank/rate from his perspective
I acknowledged that in my post above, and I understand it. I guess when you've been doing something for so long, people like your perspective. Like hearing stories from old people about how things were different back when.
It's just weird to me that people will watch/not watch/like/not like a movie based on what this guy says, when at the end of the day they can just watch the same movie themselves and form an opinion.
I'm also slightly jealous that someone could make such a good living and become so popular doing something so easy. I want that job
Posted on 4/5/13 at 2:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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I could be the pioneer of reviewing which pasta sauce I like best with different types of noodles, but that doesn't mean I should be taken any more seriously on the subject that anyone else who eats at home in their own kitchen. I certainly wouldn't expect people all over the country to credit me as an authority on the subject.
If you were to do this for 50 years I think people would consider you the Ebert of pasta sauces. The guy has been reviewing movies for 50 years, that's really the only reason people still read his reviews.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 3:19 pm to WG_Dawg
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Just out of curiosity, why are a select few (like siskel and ebert for instance) given so much clout when it comes to something as trivial as reviewing a movie? I mean, other than watching a shite ton of movies what are his credentials, why should we put any stock in this guy?
Because they can write. And because they do not approach it haphazardly. Professional critcs, of any art, are essentially contemporary historians. Ebert;s opinion mattered because A) he was articulate and B) he had spent a lifetime studying film. He understood the medium.
It does not mean your opinion doesn't matter. But Ebert reviewed over 300 movies a year. He spent his life not just watching lots of movies, but studying movies. He knew a lot about them. I don't understand this fear people have of other people having expertise. The funny thing is, a lot of these criticisms I'm reading of Ebert are fairly baseless and contrary to his career. He did champion "middlebrow" films and genre works. He believed strongly that each person's own tastes should be their own guide. He was pretty far from an elitist.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 3:19 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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My thing with critics is that they play follow the leader.
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It's like you HAVE to vote foreign or indie films as the best of the year. It's almost forbidden to really like a popcorn flick. I can't imagine how many critics are sit in a theatre and are enjoying a film but write a mediocre review because that's what everybody else did.
I could not agree any more with this post. Very similar to this board IMO.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 3:34 pm to Baloo
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The funny thing is, a lot of these criticisms I'm reading of Ebert are fairly baseless and contrary to his career
I always found Siskel & Ebert liked far more mainstream movies that the sterotypical critic. They struck me as guys that geniunely loved movies and tried to express that appreciation for the medium in a more down to earth manner for a wider audience.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 3:38 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I always found Siskel & Ebert liked far more mainstream movies that the sterotypical critic. They struck me as guys that geniunely loved movies and tried to express that appreciation for the medium in a more down to earth manner for a wider audience.
that's their career in a nutshell. They exposed middle America to art films, but not in a patronizing way. Ebert wanted you to like things.
Though his dislike of Brazil and Blue Velvet? Come on, man.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:25 pm to Baloo
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Though his dislike of Brazil and Blue Velvet
Brazil - agree
Blue Velvet - disagree
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:30 pm to BOSCEAUX
quote:KYS
Brazil - agree
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:33 pm to Baloo
quote:Brazil, Blue Velvet, clockwork orange, hudsucker proxy, reservoir dogs, Delicatessen, full metal jacket, the elephant man, and just about every western. If you dig around he made a fool of himself dozens of times. The good movies he gave negative reviews on aren't funny once you see the filth that he gave a thumps up; those are the worst offenses.
Though his dislike of Brazil and Blue Velvet? Come on, man.
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