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ZiPS 2017 MLB projections thread (Updated 12/28)

Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145150 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:40 pm
ZiPS projections have been coming out now for the past couple of weeks and here is a thread for their discussion. i will rank top players and teams by projected WAR and update as the projections keep being released

Players Projected 5+ WAR
9 - Mike Trout
7 - Kris Bryant, Carlos Correa, Josh Donaldson
6 - Madison Bumgarner, Mookie Betts, Chris Sale, Anthony Rizzo, Francisco Lindor, Corey Kluber, Max Scherzer, Jose Altuve
5- Johnny Cueto, Buster Posey, Paul Goldschmidt, Freddie Freeman, David Price, Aaron Sanchez, Bryce Harper, Kyle Seager

Teams By Projected WAR
1. Chicago Cubs - 51
2. Houston - 49
3. Boston - 48
4. Cleveland, Washington - 44
6. San Francisco - 42
7. Toronto - 41
8. Seattle - 38
9. Detroit - 36
10. Tampa Bay - 35
11. Arizona - 31
12. Atlanta, Los Angeles Angels - 28
14. San Diego - 21

Arizona
Atlanta
Boston
Chicago Cubs
Cleveland
Detroit
Houston
Los Angeles Angels
San Diego
San Francisco
Seattle
Tampa Bay
Toronto
Washington
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 1:01 pm
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5276 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:41 pm to
Cubs are stacked once again and the rest of the NL is fricked.
Posted by LandonC
Member since Oct 2016
599 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:42 pm to
If Bryce Harper wants that $400 million he better get into Trout category
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
5976 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:42 pm to
War.... what is it good for
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145150 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:43 pm to
Still has two more years for another 10 win season
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278383 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

If Bryce Harper wants that $400 million he better get into Trout category




yea uhh no
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145150 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:44 pm to
You knew the stros had a good roster but damn they are projected just shy of 50 WAR
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5276 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:45 pm to
Another off season championship for the Astros. Print the shirts.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278383 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

they are projected just shy of 50 WAR



all coming from their position players
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145150 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 2:52 pm to
The Padres starting staff literally projects 0 wins
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31073 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 3:03 pm to
I could see certain projection system (that do not weigh as heavily on 2015) projecting more for Harper. However, it is up to human adjustments to appropriately find that balance cause it can be tough for systems to project off a really bad year.

I know he was very good, but 5 feels high for Sanchez. With his innings spike, I am scared of injury there.
This post was edited on 12/26/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53787 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Another off season championship for the Astros. Print the shirts.


I guess having your team win one championship in 110 years gives you license to talk shite. Carry on.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60150 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 3:26 pm to
Cubs fans are going to be worse than Red Sox fans post championship, it's already pretty apparent if you know any in real life
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11346 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 3:29 pm to
5 for Aaron Sanchez does seem awfully optimistic. Steamer has him at 3.0.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5276 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

I guess having your team win one championship in 110 years gives you license to talk shite. Carry on.

Yeah a significant portion of Astros fans I know, and I live in Houston, and ones that post on this board, are obnoxious asses just like Aggie fans.

Take for instance your comment. You try to talk shite, but I'm fine having watched them win their first championship in 110 years whereas you, along with 100% of Astros fans, have NEVER seen the Astros win one. Carry on.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69615 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 3:53 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 2:21 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 3:56 pm to
Yankees going to the ship
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93716 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 3:58 pm to
Well, 50+ more years to go to be worst than the Cubs 1:110 ratio. I'll still take those odds.
Posted by ScarletFire
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2016
627 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Freddie Freeman



Will get over 5 if he can build on last year


Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31073 posts
Posted on 12/26/16 at 4:01 pm to
Even if you put him down for 200 clean innings, 5 seems aggressive just looking at him being with Cueto and Price. Sanchez could potentially be an ace, but that is an ace level projection.
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