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“You can’t call that foul in that situation” is the stupidest meme in all of sports.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:26 am
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:26 am
I hate it.
What difference does it make when it is? What difference does it make if it’s minute 1 in game 1, of the last second in the championship?
If it’s an obvious foul, it’s an obvious foul. There aren’t two rule books that differentiate between most of the game and the last minute.
I’m seeing people say this over and over about the game last night now that multiple angles are out that make it one of the most obvious illegal screens you can see. “Well that may be but you can’t call it”
The refs aren’t “deciding it”. The players are.
What difference does it make when it is? What difference does it make if it’s minute 1 in game 1, of the last second in the championship?
If it’s an obvious foul, it’s an obvious foul. There aren’t two rule books that differentiate between most of the game and the last minute.
I’m seeing people say this over and over about the game last night now that multiple angles are out that make it one of the most obvious illegal screens you can see. “Well that may be but you can’t call it”
The refs aren’t “deciding it”. The players are.
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:36 am to Fun Bunch
Old man yells at cloud
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:47 am to Tshiz
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Old man yells at cloud
Herrrderrrr
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:49 am to Fun Bunch
I have never understood this either.
This is almost beneath barbershop argument level of sports rhetoric.
This is almost beneath barbershop argument level of sports rhetoric.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
Every espn personality and a bunch of others are all saying the same thing on Twitter. I don’t get it.
She illegally stopped the defender from defending on what could have been a game winning shot.
Why WOULDN’T you call that?
She illegally stopped the defender from defending on what could have been a game winning shot.
Why WOULDN’T you call that?
Posted on 4/6/24 at 8:55 am to Fun Bunch
The bigger problem is the refs were totally awful the entire game, didn’t call moving screens once when it happened basically every play, and then decided to call it at the most pivotal point
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:02 am to hiltacular
I agree that you either let them play or you don’t. Don’t call something at the end if you weren’t calling it all game.
I didn’t pay enough attention to say if that was the case, but I do believe the refs need to call a consistent game.
I didn’t pay enough attention to say if that was the case, but I do believe the refs need to call a consistent game.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:04 am to hiltacular
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The bigger problem is the refs were totally awful the entire game, didn’t call moving screens once when it happened basically every play, and then decided to call it at the most pivotal point
So what? If it’s a foul it’s a foul. They should be consistent, correct. But you still call it if it’s that obvious.
Also, why is this thread anchored? Kinda strange anchor.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:04 am to Fun Bunch
quote:There’s one rule book and refs get to decide when they use it. The problem is the lack of consistency more so than the call itself.
There aren’t two rule books that differentiate between most of the game and the last minute.
Ref wants to call an illegal screen with a few secs left? Cool with me but call it all.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:08 am to beauchristopher
Right. Everyone is like “it’s a foul in the first quarter, it’s a foul with 3s left”. Well it wasn’t a foul in the first quarter bc they didn’t call it when Iowa was setting 3 moving screens as Clark bowling balled her way to try and get open 
This game was the perfect example of the refs taking over, right or wrong they absolutely controlled the game.
And i don’t give a shite if Iowa or UConn wins it was just frustrating to watch especially when the 4th Q had been really good
This game was the perfect example of the refs taking over, right or wrong they absolutely controlled the game.
And i don’t give a shite if Iowa or UConn wins it was just frustrating to watch especially when the 4th Q had been really good
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:10 am to Fun Bunch
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“You can’t call that foul in that situation” is the stupidest meme in all of sports.
True.
However, you're only identifying half of the issue. The other half is that they weren't calling it all game long, then chose to right then.
Iowa screens a lot and theirs weren't all clean.
Clark was pushing off all game - excuse me, "creating separation" - without being called for it. In the final stretch, when she scored a mid-range bucket from left of the key to put them up by about 6 pts or so, she sent the defender flying and it wasn't a flop. No call.
You either call fouls or you don't. You don't "let them play" all game long and then call a moving screen on what would have likely been the last play of the game, win or lose, for UConn.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:16 am to Longhorn Actual
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However, you're only identifying half of the issue. The other half is that they weren't calling it all game long, then chose to right then.
I don’t see the relevance.
The call was correct when they called it.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:19 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 4/6/24 at 10:00 am to Fun Bunch
You either loathe UConn or have raging boner for Caitlin Clark. How many times you gonna let us know that IT WAS THE RIGHT CAALLLL!!!!!?
Posted on 4/6/24 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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I have never understood this either.
Slow, you're a lawyer. You should understand prosecutorial discretion as well as anyone. The officials have the same discretion. Maybe the standard for DAs is technically whether or not they think they have enough evidence to win the case like the officials' is whether or not they can justify the foul. But we all know they are human beings, and there are always other factors that come into play. I think refs should err on the side of "letting them play" at the end of the game, so as not to insert themselves into the story as long as it's not just something completely egregious, which I don't think that foul last night was. We should be talking about the game itself, the players and coaches today, not the call.
However, I don't really want refs thinking about that too much, or else you wind up on the other side of the same coin like the Saints getting fricked in the NFCCG against the Rams. I don't believe there was a conspiracy to frick the Saints by Goodell and the NFL. I just think the official, in the moment, erred on the side of "letting them play" and not wanting to insert himself in the story and having that call basically send New Orleans to the Super Bowl. But he erred way to far the other way and wound up making the "no call" an ever bigger deal than call would have been itself.
I don't know. I think I'm talking myself out of my original position. I don't want refs/officials thinking too much bout situations at all. They're human and probably not able to process all that in real time, so they should probably always just call it like they see it and not give any thought to situations. Maybe their discretion should NEVER be used at the end of games and those calls should only be judged by the precedent of how the entire game had been called up to that point. As long as it's consistent, there can't be valid complaints.
I didn't watch the game, so I can't speak to how the game was called throughout. And I couldn't care less who won. I just hate that there's the narrative that the "powers that be" wanted Clark and Iowa in the Finals in a rematch of last year's Final Four semi against SC. Did they? Of course. To the extent that they instructed the refs to help if they had the opportunity? Maybe I'm naive, but I don't think so.
Regardless, UCONN still had a chance after Caitlan missed the free throw and they didn't get the defensive board. They still had a timeout and could have advanced the ball and gotten a relatively good look to tie or win the game.
tl;dr--don't bother reading that long arse post--I just typed myself in circles and wound up basically agreeing with the OP after talking it out in my head.
I just hate that this story is overshadowing what was apparently a great game. This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 10:18 am
Posted on 4/6/24 at 10:35 am to Longhorn Actual
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Clark was pushing off all game - excuse me, "creating separation" - without being called for it.
This is the real problem with it. Either let them play or don’t, but be consistent. You can’t swallow the whistle on those fouls all game and then call it with 5 seconds left in the most important moment
Posted on 4/6/24 at 10:41 am to Fun Bunch
So we just let the refs decide if they wanna call a foul?
It isnt consistent officiating, thats the issue.
I mean at least make an effort to see the problem, Caitlin isn't going to frick you bro.
It isnt consistent officiating, thats the issue.
I mean at least make an effort to see the problem, Caitlin isn't going to frick you bro.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/6/24 at 10:45 am to Fun Bunch
My only thing with late game calls is that the refs just need to be much more conservative so they don’t get a call wrong. I think they should be this way the whole game, but atleast late as they could wing the game for sure. We have replay now which helps.
The UCONN vs Iowa thing is stupid as it was obviously a foul.
The UCONN vs Iowa thing is stupid as it was obviously a foul.
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