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re: WTF is up with NASCAR
Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:33 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:33 pm to BuckyCheese
Tim Richmond would deservedly have sponsors all over him. The guy could flat arse drive a race car as well as anyone who’s ever turned a steering wheel. He just from what I’ve heard, and no I wasn’t there so I wouldn’t testify to this in court, had a kink, and it was heterosexual, that ended up getting him in trouble and killing him.
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Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:34 pm to Brummy
With a few exceptions, the drivers today are as interchangeable, and about as exciting, as pro golfers.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:37 pm to footswitch
They had to kick Winston to the curb, it’s now against federal law for tobacco companies to sponsor things.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:40 pm to RoyalAir
That “boom” of the late 1990s/early 2000s when all the yuppies and Hollywood types discovered NASCAR had no more foundation that the first little pig’s house of straw, but they keep thinking they can recreate that somehow. Because once hawgs feed at a trough like that, it’s hard to get them to accept lesser fare.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:41 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Tim Richmond would deservedly have sponsors all over him. The guy could flat arse drive a race car as well as anyone who’s ever turned a steering wheel. He just from what I’ve heard, and no I wasn’t there so I wouldn’t testify to this in court, had a kink, and it was heterosexual, that ended up getting him in trouble and killing him.
Richmond wasn't straight out of the hollar or lumberyard, which is why he'd be popular with sponsors and teams today. I'm looking beyond driving talent.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 1:48 pm to BuckyCheese
True dat. Kyle Petty told a story one time on a podcast where him, Richmond, Dale Sr. and Ricky Rudd were out on the town and got kicked out of the Gold Club in Atlanta. That had to be an interesting evening that you wouldn’t see today.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:01 pm to tylerlsu2008
My first race was the 98 Daytona 500, the one Earnhardt won. I took a vacation to Mooresville to visit all the shops and do tours etc. Talked with Ray Everham when he was walking into work at Handricks one day. Been to 9 different tracks.
Now it's completely laughable. I dgaf if the whole thing folds. It's so stupid.
Now it's completely laughable. I dgaf if the whole thing folds. It's so stupid.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 3:46 pm to Brummy
NASCAR and the race teams have sold their souls to tv and corporate sponsors. Sponsors pull the strings and are behind the stage/chase/playoff/overtime/competition caution gimmicks. They are trying so hard to engineer a close, down-to-the-wire finish for every race, and every championship. Core fans are walking away from the sport because they don’t care about a gimmicky watered down NASCAR.
NASCAR has seen its best days unfortunately
NASCAR has seen its best days unfortunately
Posted on 7/9/23 at 4:50 pm to Brummy
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I always have felt like RJ Reynolds being replaced by Nextel as Cup sponsor after the '03 season was when things began to turn. That was when the Chase was first implemented
Agree with this. I recall Nextel and The Chase being a turning point in my mind.
I still refer to them as Winston Cup and Busch out of habit
Posted on 7/9/23 at 5:04 pm to Dobermann
Indy Car has gotten the same way. Look I’d rather see a close exciting finish but that shouldn’t be the automatic expectation. If someone has his caca together to the point that he is two laps better than the field, kudos to him and the others need to go back to work and do it better.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:19 pm to InkStainedWretch
Yeah, F1 hasn’t completely gone off the rails (yet), but I dislike the whole DRS thing. There shouldn’t be Mario Kart-esque gimmicks in elite racing.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:44 pm to tylerlsu2008
Again, the Winston sponsorship didn’t go away because NASCAR didn’t want R.J. Reynolds’ money anymore. It’s now against federal law for tobacco companies to sponsor sports series.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:49 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Again, the Winston sponsorship didn’t go away because NASCAR didn’t want R.J. Reynolds’ money anymore. It’s now against federal law for tobacco companies to sponsor sports series.
No shite… we know that, that wasn’t the point.
F1 had to block cigarettes brands on livery at certain tracks back as far as the late 90s on Ferrari Marlboro liveries and McLaren West as well as BAR Lucky Stike.
Posted on 7/9/23 at 8:52 pm to tylerlsu2008
Some folks not necessarily you were blaming NASCAR for dropping them.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 8:37 am to tylerlsu2008
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Yeah, F1 hasn’t completely gone off the rails (yet), but I dislike the whole DRS thing. There shouldn’t be Mario Kart-esque gimmicks in elite racing.
But it has though- ever since Liberty took over from Ecclestone.
A few examples
- Cost Cap
- DRS
- Banning Flyovers in the name of "Climate Change"
- Constant pandering to wokeness
- Lewis Hamilton and his platform
- No more screaming V-10s that would stop your heart when you saw them blow by
The sport is a hollow shell from the F1 of the 90s, I used to watch as a kid at 7 am in the morning.
Indycar is the only pure, legitimate racing series left (IMSA is ok too). Thankfully, Indycar somewhat has its shite together now for the first time since the mid 90s
Posted on 7/16/23 at 9:45 am to tylerlsu2008
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I used to love NASCAR
Me Too
1. They went WOKE with all this Bubba Wallace BS, they were so desperate to include everyone.
2. The drivers now days are a bunch of punks, most of them are 5'8" 150 lbs so it's like a bunch of Jockeys fighting.
No personalities anymore
Posted on 7/16/23 at 10:45 am to tylerlsu2008
I remember the Zakspeed team had West as a sponsor. At one race where tobacco signage was banned, they had East on the cars.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 10:49 am to tylerlsu2008
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WTF is up with NASCAR
Marketing Consultants and Hipster Hick
The same thing that ruined Country Music has it claws sunk deep into NASCAR.
Posted on 7/16/23 at 11:11 am to udtiger
If they would stop intentionally causing wrecks the last 20 laps
Way too many cautions
And that Chicago course was laughable
Way too many cautions
And that Chicago course was laughable
Posted on 7/16/23 at 12:10 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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I remember the Zakspeed team had West as a sponsor. At one race where tobacco signage was banned, they had East on the cars.
McLaren did this;
became
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