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re: Why does the NFL refuse to place a camera facing directly down the goal line

Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54085 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:27 pm to
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The fact that the NFL still uses two old men with a fricking chain to decide their first downs tells you all you need to know about the league.


Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76518 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:34 pm to
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Pilon cameras in pro and college would be a huge upgrade


They would show nothing. They would obstructed on nearly every 4th and 6 inch play.

They need overhead cameras and a straight down the line shot on both sides.

The overhead shot is very problematic.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:24 am to
You know with all that money they could just fid two cameras on each side of the goal line about 10 yards back from the pylon.

Like what the guy said about chain guys deciding 4th and inches or first down by inches. Maybe they just want to leave the refs something to do.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125402 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:29 am to
Goal line tech has been awesome in soccer.
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
19880 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:33 am to
it would seem to very easy to have a device on he bottom of the sticks that could shoot out a beam of light from the base to show the first down mark
hell if it was so lowered enough you could keep in on the whole time

(think of level lasers)
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19675 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:36 am to
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Someone explain this to me, every replay has to be from different awkward angles that never make it easy to tell if a ball crosses the plane


I am sure there is technology out there that could even eliminate the need for cameras.

All they would need is some kind of sensor/grid system where the ball is constantly in contact with the grid (the field) thus you can pinpoint precisely where the ball is at all times. Would allow for more accurate spotting in close situations as well as on the goal line.

Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13070 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:46 am to
I don't think we need to be relying on a computer system to tell us where the ball goes. GTFO with that.
Too many bugs, too many flaws in computers. If it goes down that's just more time to a game that most think is too long already. Every time they toss in a new ball they would have to stop and make sure the computer registered which ball was on the field.
This isn't fricking rocket science, it's football.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19675 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:49 am to
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Too many bugs, too many flaws in computers.

Anything is better than refs making judgment decisions which can decide a game.

They are basically already doing what I am asking with the foot tracker thing they have come out with tracks how many yards players actually run. And in tennis with the line judges using the ball app. Hell baseball does it with the pitch tracker. Everyone is already using the tech except football.

There is no reason they can't do that with the ball.

Simply put, there is to much $$$ riding on the NFL for them to let refs decide crucial decisions in games. Especially when everyone agrees the refs are terrible for the most part. Hell Carey the ref coorespondent last night even blatantly disagreed with there spot on a TD.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 9:08 am
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20747 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:56 am to
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Goal line tech has been awesome in soccer.


This. It's the same tech used in tennis to decide in/out replays. All it takes is several camera angles and the system can show whether the ball crossed or not.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:08 am to
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Goal line tech has been awesome in soccer.


If soccer can do it, football has no excuse.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71385 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:35 am to
Pitch fx is amazing in baseball. It also consistently makes Joe West and Angel Hernandez look like dog shite.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:53 am to
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The fact that the NFL still uses two old men with a fricking chain to decide their first downs tells you all you need to know about the league.

That's such an inexact science for something so important. Short by an inch? Well, you know, maybe he actually made it but the chain guy was off.
I think it's pretty funny that for every down that's not a first down, the spot can be off by a few inches and nobody cares. If it's a potential first down though? that quarter of an inch is life or death
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82018 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:

The fact that the NFL still uses two old men with a fricking chain to decide their first downs tells you all you need to know about the league.

That's such an inexact science for something so important. Short by an inch? Well, you know, maybe he actually made it but the chain guy was off.


What bothers me even more about this is that every time they bring it out for a measurement, I don't feel like it's completely parallel to the side of the field
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 12/5/14 at 9:43 pm to
There are 3 million sensors in my footballs
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