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Why do you think Harden and CP3 are both too ball-dominant to work?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:40 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:40 am
But don't say the same about OKC?
Paul George's usage rate last season was 28.9. Westbrook's was 41.7. Combined that's a usage rate of 70.6.
Harden's was 34.2 and Paul's was 24.4 for a combined usage of 58.6.
Paul and Harden combined are very similar to other star duos such as Curry and Durant (57.9) and LeBron and Irving (60.8).
I have yet to hear anyone talk about how ball-dominant George and Westbrook are and how it won't work.
Paul George's usage rate last season was 28.9. Westbrook's was 41.7. Combined that's a usage rate of 70.6.
Harden's was 34.2 and Paul's was 24.4 for a combined usage of 58.6.
Paul and Harden combined are very similar to other star duos such as Curry and Durant (57.9) and LeBron and Irving (60.8).
I have yet to hear anyone talk about how ball-dominant George and Westbrook are and how it won't work.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 10:42 am
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:42 am to PrimeTime Money
The Rockets are going to be unwatchable with those 2 floppers.
CP3 is nothing but a baby on the court despite his immense talent.
CP3 is nothing but a baby on the court despite his immense talent.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:43 am to 33inNC
quote:Great, but that has nothing to do with the topic.
The Rockets are going to be unwatchable with those 2 floppers. CP3 is nothing but a baby on the court despite his immense talent.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:44 am to PrimeTime Money
I think it has more to do with them both playing PG in the past. Harden should be able to slide to SG. But he was so good as a lead guard, it seems like he'll be taking a step back going there. Plus there are chemistry issues that might spring up. But I think they will be very good..
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:46 am to brmark70816
Harden was an MVP candidate right behind Curry when he was a 2-guard. He only played PG for 1 season.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 10:47 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:46 am to 33inNC
quote:When you just have to get that hot take in there no matter what!!!
The Rockets are going to be unwatchable with those 2 floppers.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:48 am to brmark70816
Their going to have 2 separate shot clocks on each possession in which they have the ball, so they'll be fine. Just found this out.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:48 am to brmark70816
quote:His numbers won't be as gaudy, but that won't automatically mean he's worse, he'll just be in a different role.
But he was so good as a lead guard, it seems like he'll be taking a step back going there.
quote:See, I don't think there will be any chemistry issues in terms of the flow of the offense. But yea, if Harden does any lazy shite, Chris Paul is going to go Dad mode on him, and that will be very interesting to see how it plays out.
Plus there are chemistry issues that might spring up
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:50 am to PrimeTime Money
I think both teams will face difficulties early on and take some time to adjust.
The Rockets have a better chance of making it work at an elite level - their role players and coaching staff are way better.
My issue with Houston is that CP is the alpha dog in any relationship, and I don't know how Harden will respond to that.
The Rockets have a better chance of making it work at an elite level - their role players and coaching staff are way better.
My issue with Houston is that CP is the alpha dog in any relationship, and I don't know how Harden will respond to that.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:52 am to PrimeTime Money
Has Paul ever played with someone like Harden who needed the ball as much?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:52 am to shel311
Like I said, they are going to be really good and they are both solid vets that have never had locker room issues that I have ever heard of. But its still an adjustment and there is some parts of their games that won't mesh together right away. Its easy to point to International play. But they overmatch their competition so easily, that there is so little pressure to perform. So they all just have fun. That doesn't fly in the NBA..
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:54 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:55 am to PrimeTime Money
Westbrook's usage the year before when he had Durant was 31.
His Usage this past year was extremely high because he had no one to play with and went full Westbrook.
Russ and PG play different positions and people expect Russ to go back to playing some semblance of team basketball.
CP likes to play with the ball in his hands until virtually the end of the shotclock, and Harden excelled playing Point last year, the same position as CP3.
It is an interesting experiment.
His Usage this past year was extremely high because he had no one to play with and went full Westbrook.
Russ and PG play different positions and people expect Russ to go back to playing some semblance of team basketball.
CP likes to play with the ball in his hands until virtually the end of the shotclock, and Harden excelled playing Point last year, the same position as CP3.
It is an interesting experiment.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:58 am to Fun Bunch
Harden played the point last season but every season before that he was a SG. You go back to a previous year and point out that Westbrook had a lower usage but don't use the same argument when Harden was a runner up in the MVP while playing SG in the past.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:03 am to PrimeTime Money
Because the media tells us so.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:05 am to PrimeTime Money
Who's not saying the same about OKC? They are essentially Westbrook and Durant all over again except there's an obvious downgrade from Durant to George.
Westbrook and Durant took turns playing hero ball. Westbrook and George will do the exact same.
Westbrook and Durant took turns playing hero ball. Westbrook and George will do the exact same.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:13 am to PrimeTime Money
Oh the Rox are going to be monsters next year. Paul and Harden aren't the problem with that team. It has and always will be interior defense, especially come playoff time when you'll need Ryan Anderson to score.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:21 am to PrimeTime Money
I never understand these arguments. Do they not practice, scrimmage, etc for hours upon hours before the season? They do, so I don't see how this would ever be an issue for this Rockets or Thunder teams this year.
Offense will not be a problem for the Rockets next year
Offense will not be a problem for the Rockets next year
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:22 am
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:22 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Harden played the point last season but every season before that he was a SG. You go back to a previous year and point out that Westbrook had a lower usage but don't use the same argument when Harden was a runner up in the MVP while playing SG in the past.
K.
His previous two years when "playing SG" was 32.5 and 31.3. A difference of very little. Come on man.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:23 am to PrimeTime Money
Awful pairing. Two ball-hog underachievers on the same team. They should go all in and get Cousins while they are at it and call themselves the Houston Douchers.
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