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Why do baseball teams have starters?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:30 pm
Sometimes I think using 5 or 6 pitchers each game would be the way to go. If you have 12 pitchers, you can throw 6 each game and they get two days (4 when they need it) rest after pitch a couple of innings. And when pitching just a couple of innings, everyone will be throwing their best stuff. Maybe there is some obvious reason why it wouldn't work. But without the batters ever getting to see a pitcher twice, it seems like a huge advantage.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 1:31 pm
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:31 pm to SwaggerCopter
cause you dont have 12 guys of equal talent and when you have those 3-4 guys who are very good why take them out?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:31 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:I wouldnt be surprised if this is how it is in 40 years or so.
Sometimes I think using 5 or 6 pitchers each game would be the way to go. If you have 12 pitchers, you can throw 6 each game and they get two days (4 when they need it) rest after pitch a couple of innings. And when pitching just a couple of innings, everyone will be throwing their best stuff. Maybe there is some obvious reason why it wouldn't work. But without the batters ever getting to see a pitcher twice, it seems like a huge advantage.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:32 pm to SwaggerCopter
Because using your top 2 or 3 guys for an inning or two at a time would be a waste
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:32 pm to SwaggerCopter
I think the Astros tried something like that with their minor league teams...
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:32 pm to SwaggerCopter
because why would you want to use your best pitchers for such a short time?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:33 pm to The Ostrich
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you have those 3-4 guys who are very good why take them out?
Because they impact more games if you take them out. The innings thrown would be about the same with a constant rotation. Give the better guys 3. That's fine.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:34 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Sometimes I think using 5 or 6 pitchers each game would be the way to go. If you have 12 pitchers, you can throw 6 each game and they get two days (4 when they need it) rest after pitch a couple of innings. And when pitching just a couple of innings, everyone will be throwing their best stuff. Maybe there is some obvious reason why it wouldn't work. But without the batters ever getting to see a pitcher twice, it seems like a huge advantage.
You want the best 3-4 pitchers on your team throwing 200+ innings. If you make it even across the board, then your ace throws 80 innings, just like your 12th best pitcher on your team. That's pretty asinine.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:34 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:
Sometimes I think using 5 or 6 pitchers each game would be the way to go. If you have 12 pitchers, you can throw 6 each game and they get two days (4 when they need it) rest after pitch a couple of innings. And when pitching just a couple of innings, everyone will be throwing their best stuff.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:34 pm to PrimeTime Money
They use the tandem system but that's more to reduce wear on arms than as a strategy employed to win more games
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:35 pm to dnm3305
Yeah. Obviously, you can change it up a bit. The key is to make sure they can still throw every other day.
And with my suggested system, you wouldn't be spending money on top pitchers. That's for sure. Just pick up 12 really solid relievers.
And with my suggested system, you wouldn't be spending money on top pitchers. That's for sure. Just pick up 12 really solid relievers.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:35 pm to lsupride87
Find me elite pitchers that would sign up for that. Assuming 12 pitchers, each guy would have to average around 115 innings a year. Elite pitchers wouldn't play for that, as their value would diminish, and most relievers don't throw that much, or their stuff would diminish.
In theory it could work, in practice you will never be able to get the guys under contract to do it.
In theory it could work, in practice you will never be able to get the guys under contract to do it.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:36 pm to SwaggerCopter
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The key is to make sure they can still throw every other day.
Why is that the key?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:36 pm to SwaggerCopter
If you have them throwing 2 innings over 60-70 games like you say that's 120-140 innings not 200
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:36 pm to Jcorye1
i just dont see the draw to this, relievers dont pitch every day in todays baseball, no way starters are going to start doing so. not to mention this lessens the impact starters have on the game themselves
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:37 pm to SwaggerCopter
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:37 pm to SwaggerCopter
Armchair hitting and now pitching coaches coming out of the woodwork here the last week or so
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:38 pm to WestCoastAg
It's not every day. It's every other day and of course off days help you out.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:38 pm to Jcorye1
quote:Im just saying look at how much has changed already. Middle relievers are so coveted now. I was listening to Matt Carpenter, who is the most patient hitter in the MLB do an interview. He said that he is no longer as patient with taking pitchers because running a starter these days isnt as important because the guys coming in for an inning or two are sometimes harder to hit because they come in for only 3-4 batters
Find me elite pitchers that would sign up for that. Assuming 12 pitchers, each guy would have to average around 115 innings a year. Elite pitchers wouldn't play for that, as their value would diminish, and most relievers don't throw that much, or their stuff would diminish.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:41 pm to lsupride87
I know people are down voting this thread to hell, but I really think people ought to think about how pitching works in baseball. Starters cost so much damn money to play 1/5th of the season. I think financially, having 12 really solid relievers would help a team more.
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