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Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:04 am to chalmetteowl
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well yeah bc their o-line cut blocked...
So does every offensive line ever
Cut blocks are 100 percent legal
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:07 am to jembeurt
I think Greene is hurt from playing for too many teams.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:10 am to wildtigercat93
Davis doesn't belong, IMO
That blocking scheme just generates more production for backs. Davis did it. His successors were virtually as successful. Arian Foster has done it. It's a pretty well known fact that it happens.
That blocking scheme just generates more production for backs. Davis did it. His successors were virtually as successful. Arian Foster has done it. It's a pretty well known fact that it happens.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:10 am to Lester Earl
How many teams did Deion and Jerry Rice play for?
ETA. Greene was a sack machine, and like Rickey Jackson, always lined up on the TE side of the ball, and did it on grass and turf.
ETA. Greene was a sack machine, and like Rickey Jackson, always lined up on the TE side of the ball, and did it on grass and turf.
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 11:13 am
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:12 am to jembeurt
Since it is the Pro Football HOF, and not the NFL HOF.
Hershel Walker
- 137 career TDs and over 25,000 total yards
- 13,787 career rushing yards 115 TDs
- most rushing yards in a single season 2,411
- 4,000 yards in the NFL three different ways (rushing, returns, receiving)
-He is the only NFL player with a 90+ yard reception, 90+ yard run and a 90+ yard kickoff return in one season ('94)
- 18,168 total combined NFL yards, ranking him 2nd on the NFL's all-time leaders in total yardage as of his retirement
Hershel Walker
- 137 career TDs and over 25,000 total yards
- 13,787 career rushing yards 115 TDs
- most rushing yards in a single season 2,411
- 4,000 yards in the NFL three different ways (rushing, returns, receiving)
-He is the only NFL player with a 90+ yard reception, 90+ yard run and a 90+ yard kickoff return in one season ('94)
- 18,168 total combined NFL yards, ranking him 2nd on the NFL's all-time leaders in total yardage as of his retirement
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:15 am to FightinTigersDammit
Im not saying he shouldnt be in. Just explaining why. He is kind of overlooked because he changed teams so much late in his career.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:19 am to Lester Earl
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Im not saying he shouldnt be in. Just explaining why. He is kind of overlooked because he changed teams so much late in his career.
I'm with you
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:51 am to Matisyeezy
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That blocking scheme just generates more production for backs. Davis did it. His successors were virtually as successful. Arian Foster has done it. It's a pretty well known fact that it happens.
If the ZBS was the reason players put up hoF type numbers, then every team in the league would be running it
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:56 am to Lester Earl
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I think Greene is hurt from playing for too many teams.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:10 pm to wildtigercat93
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If the ZBS was the reason players put up hoF type numbers, then every team in the league would be running it
Okay. So if it's not the scheme, then what is it? Admittedly consistency along the line and staff helps. But when you can literally plug in another guy and watch him go for 1,000+ yards with nary a hiccup, that's an indicator that it's probably not the back that is the chief driver of those results. I guess if you want to argue it's the line I'm not going to battle you too hard, but what they do is as important as who they are.
And more teams use zone blocking or at least concepts from zone blocking than you might expect.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:36 pm to sms151t
Steve sabol said Jerry Kramer
Peter king is a dick without an original thought so he said Jerry Kramer
Many posters here are dicks without an original thought and will say Jerry Kramer
Answer is ken Anderson
I won't bother with guys who will obviously get in
Peter king is a dick without an original thought so he said Jerry Kramer
Many posters here are dicks without an original thought and will say Jerry Kramer
Answer is ken Anderson
I won't bother with guys who will obviously get in
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:39 pm to sms151t
Charles Haley and Ken Stabler aren't in the HoF because they were dicks to the media and no other reason.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:51 pm to EmperorGout
Wasn't Haley bi polar
Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:55 pm to EmperorGout
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Charles Haley and Ken Stabler aren't in the HoF because they were dicks to the media and no other reason.
Gradishar isn't in because he wasn't flashy and just showed up and did his job without being an attention whore. Dude was a tackling machine though. 14 tackles a game for his career. Unreal production.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 1:05 pm to DelU249
Kramer and Anderson are legit.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 1:19 pm to sms151t
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In my opinion it is Charles Haley.
Dude was a fricking beast on Tecmo Super Bowl. I wrecked shop with him blitzing off the edge of using Ronnie Lott to ballhawk on 3rd & long.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 1:36 pm to DelU249
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Many posters here are dicks without an original thought and will say Jerry
5 first team all pros, 5 titles , 1960s all decade team and being on the nfl all 50th anniversary team should be a lock
Posted on 7/6/14 at 1:42 pm to BRL79
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100% agree. Unbelievable Greene isn't in. I mean, 3rd all time in sacks. More sacks than Lawrence Taylor, and a ton of other hall of famers.
Sacks weren't recorded as a stat until 1982. So Rickey Jackson's first year sacks are not counted for instance.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 2:04 pm to Jake88
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Sacks weren't recorded as a stat until 1982. So Rickey Jackson's first year sacks are not counted for instance.
Really has nothing to do with Greene needing to be in. Every other eligible person in the top 9 of sacks is in the HOF, and they all started after 1982.
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