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Who has had the better football resume since 2000 - LSU or Ohio State?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:03 pm
In the past 20 seasons:
LSU.....................................Ohio State
202-59 (.774).................. 219-43 (.836)
17........Final AP Top 25s........17
12........Final AP Top 15s........16
9..........Final AP Top 10s........15
5..........Final AP Top 5s............9
14-7........Bowl Record...........11-9
5........Conf Championships.....10
4...........NC Appearances.........4
3....National Championships....2
124........Players Drafted........135
Ohio State's record counts their 12-1 2010 season that was later vacated. Also, 3 of their conference championships were co-championships, but there was no championship game until 2011.
So who is it?
ETA- fixed the draft picks. Accidentally counted the 2000 draft class.
LSU.....................................Ohio State
202-59 (.774).................. 219-43 (.836)
17........Final AP Top 25s........17
12........Final AP Top 15s........16
9..........Final AP Top 10s........15
5..........Final AP Top 5s............9
14-7........Bowl Record...........11-9
5........Conf Championships.....10
4...........NC Appearances.........4
3....National Championships....2
124........Players Drafted........135
Ohio State's record counts their 12-1 2010 season that was later vacated. Also, 3 of their conference championships were co-championships, but there was no championship game until 2011.
So who is it?
ETA- fixed the draft picks. Accidentally counted the 2000 draft class.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 9:06 pm
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:04 pm to slackster
Ohio State on paper, but LSU has to play in the SEC
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:04 pm to slackster
Ohio State has been way more consistent, but I would rather the LSU championships
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:05 pm to slackster
quote:
3....National Championships....2
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:12 pm to The Easter Bunny
quote:
Ohio State has been way more consistent, but I would rather the LSU championships
One team plays in the toughest division in football.
The other wins its conference title game by 60
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:13 pm to slackster
LSU
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:13 pm to slackster
3-2
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:19 pm to jackwoods4
quote:
3....National Championships....2
Where I'd lean too, but the Ohio State Top 5 consistency makes it a reasonable debate IMO.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:22 pm to slackster
H2H record?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:22 pm to slackster
LSU
Recency bias.
Also, Perfect season.
Recency bias.
Also, Perfect season.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:23 pm to slackster
Think we need to look at SOS and records vs top teams before making a final judgement
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:29 pm to craigbiggio
quote:
Think we need to look at SOS and records vs top teams before making a final judgement
No super consistent (or easy
) way to do that, but LSU's SOS rating from CFB Reference has averaged 4.76 to 4.05 for Ohio State (higher is better). Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:29 pm to craigbiggio
LSU’s highs have been higher, but their lows have also been lower.
I imagine Ohio St has been the much more enjoyable team to root for over the same period given their consistent success.
Having said that, if you’re someone who subscribed to the model that you can’t embrace the good times without the bad, then LSU is probably your pick. I imagine I would’ve preferred to be an Ohio St fan, though. People forget how tumultuous and toxic some of those late phase Miles teams were and even the beginning of Ed O’s tenure.
I imagine Ohio St has been the much more enjoyable team to root for over the same period given their consistent success.
Having said that, if you’re someone who subscribed to the model that you can’t embrace the good times without the bad, then LSU is probably your pick. I imagine I would’ve preferred to be an Ohio St fan, though. People forget how tumultuous and toxic some of those late phase Miles teams were and even the beginning of Ed O’s tenure.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:34 pm to slackster
quote:
No super consistent (or easy ) way to do that, but LSU's SOS rating from CFB Reference has averaged 4.76 to 4.05 for Ohio State (higher is better
That plus Bowl records makes me think LSU probably has played a tougher schedule and has a better record vs good teams, enough for me to comfortably say LSU’s resume is more impressive
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:35 pm to slackster
Gotta go with LSU even though we’ve had worse records we have more championships, won head to head and play in a real conference.
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:35 pm to diddlydawg7
quote:
Ohio State on paper, but LSU has to play in the SEC
This and the championship advantage makes me lean toward LSU, putting bias aside. It is impressive how many guys OSU puts in the NFL and how good they are when they get there. It’s definitely close.
ETA: if they had played each other every year since 2000 I think OSU would have a small series advantage because of the 2014-2017 seasons where LSU was not living up to potential.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:37 pm to slackster
In this era of heightened competition, 9 top 5 seasons in 20 years is very impressive
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:38 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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In this era of heightened competition
I mean Who’s the second best Big 10 team over that time period?
Penn State or Wisconsin?
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:40 pm to slackster
OSU no contest.
OSU is significantly more consistent. LSU has way more mediocrity, and two of their three NCs are tainted (split title and a fluke 2 loss title).
OSU is significantly more consistent. LSU has way more mediocrity, and two of their three NCs are tainted (split title and a fluke 2 loss title).
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:41 pm to MusclesofBrussels
quote:
OSU no contest.
OSU is significantly more consistent. LSU has way more mediocrity, and two of their three NCs are tainted (split title and a fluke 2 loss title).
You want to talk about the end of that OSU-Miami championship game??
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