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re: Which one of these NBA centers would you rather have in the playoffs?
Posted on 9/4/15 at 1:53 pm to PRIMETIME M0NEY
Posted on 9/4/15 at 1:53 pm to PRIMETIME M0NEY
How about free throw percentage?
How many times does the coach have to bench Gasol at the end of games for his lack of contributions from the charity stripe?
How many times does the coach have to bench Gasol at the end of games for his lack of contributions from the charity stripe?
Posted on 9/4/15 at 2:02 pm to Dr. Shultz
quote:That was in the playoffs.
Gasol averages 4.5 assists.
Howard averages 1.5 assists.
That means Gasol creates 6+ more points per game for his team than Dwight.
So yeah. Kind of important.
What, now y'all are going to change the argument back to playoff numbers? What happened to the "small sample size"?
Posted on 9/4/15 at 2:03 pm to PRIMETIME M0NEY
The thread title has Playoffs in it. I assumed we were talking about playoff stats?
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 9/4/15 at 2:05 pm to Dr. Shultz
Also, when you put both of them at per 36 in the playoffs, since they played different minutes per game, Howard averaged 1.4 assists, Gasol averaged 4.0.
So we're talking about a difference of 2.6 assists.
If that's the main thing Gasol has over Howard, then that is a pretty weak argument.
So we're talking about a difference of 2.6 assists.
If that's the main thing Gasol has over Howard, then that is a pretty weak argument.
This post was edited on 9/4/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 9/4/15 at 2:06 pm to rawDAWG333
quote:We were. But people in this thread didn't like the numbers, so they wanted to change the rules and say "look at the regular season too".
The thread title has Playoffs in it. I assumed we were talking about playoff stats?
Now, y'all want to go back to playoff stats because you found one number you like better there.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 4:38 pm to PRIMETIME M0NEY
Marc's FG % is lower because he actually takes mid range jumpers. His only shot isn't a dunk.
He's also a MUCH better passer and facilitator and I think better defender. He's so much more physical than Dwight, who despite his size, is soft as baby shite.
He's also a MUCH better passer and facilitator and I think better defender. He's so much more physical than Dwight, who despite his size, is soft as baby shite.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 4:40 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Marc's FG % is lower because he actually takes mid range jumpers. His only shot isn't a dunk.
Let's switch the name out...
quote:
Josh Smith's FG % is lower because he actually takes mid range jumpers. His only shot isn't a dunk.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 4:43 pm to SwaggerCopter
Did you just compare Marc Gasol to Josh fricking Smith?
I'm leaving.
I'm leaving.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 4:45 pm to TheCaterpillar
I didn't compare them at all. But taking and missing mid range jumpers isn't a good excuse for having a bad field goal percentage. That's my point.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 4:55 pm to SwaggerCopter
Y'all seriously remain the most butt hurt group of fans I have ever come across. SI ranked Gasol as the best C, ESPN will likely do the same, and so will the NBA FO poll. Get over it.
Like seriously you post stats in your OP and you conveniently leave out the one stat that separates Gasol from most centers? Be more petty.
I could write out some long elaborate response, but it would be such a waste of time.
Like seriously you post stats in your OP and you conveniently leave out the one stat that separates Gasol from most centers? Be more petty.
I could write out some long elaborate response, but it would be such a waste of time.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 4:58 pm to RTR America
That's right. Championships are won with high assist numbers from centers. Of course.
One stat isn't going to make up for Gasol being dominated by Howard.
One stat isn't going to make up for Gasol being dominated by Howard.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:03 pm to SwaggerCopter
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That's right. Championships are won with high assist numbers from centers. Of course.
Like I said. Waste of time.
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One stat isn't going to make up for Gasol being dominated by Howard.
Their head to head numbers would disagree.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:05 pm to RTR America
It's okay to criticize your own player, unless of course you believe shooting under 40% in the playoffs in his last 18 games is acceptable. To each his own.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:05 pm to SwaggerCopter
Let's just be real. Do you REALLY think that Dwight is currently a better all around player than Marc Gasol?
Do you really think that?
Do you really think that?
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:08 pm to Fun Bunch
I absolutely think that Howard is more capable of being a critical piece on a championship team than Marc Gasol. People call Howard soft, but nothing about his playoff contributions says that he is soft. Marc Gasol's playoff numbers scream soft.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:10 pm to SwaggerCopter
Marc shot poorly in the playoffs, but a large reason for that was Conley getting hurt. That pick and pop jumper he is so good at the elbow is a lot more difficult to run when you are running it with Nick Calathes instead of Mike Conley.
He obviously realized this which is why he got to the line a career playoff high 8 times a game (shot 85% on).
He obviously realized this which is why he got to the line a career playoff high 8 times a game (shot 85% on).
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:10 pm to RTR America
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Y'all seriously remain the most butt hurt group of fans I have ever come across.
It's strange that you say that because you seem upset.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:13 pm to SwaggerCopter
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I absolutely think that Howard is more capable of being a critical piece on a championship team than Marc Gasol
You could just as easily make the case that y'all were just fine without him. He isn't a focal point and as his athleticism leaves him he becomes less valuable. He isn't an overly smart player. He still only has the one post move he's had since he came in to the league. He still can't shoot free throws. He literally never touches the ball the high post. He gets in foul trouble pretty regularly.
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:14 pm to PortCityTiger24
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It's strange that you say that because you seem upset.
Fuming
Posted on 9/4/15 at 5:15 pm to RTR America
quote:
You could just as easily make the case that y'all were just fine without him. He isn't a focal point and as his athleticism leaves him he becomes less valuable. He isn't an overly smart player. He still only has the one post move he's had since he came in to the league. He still can't shoot free throws. He literally never touches the ball the high post. He gets in foul trouble pretty regularly.
I agree that the regular season Rockets can function without Howard, but the playoffs are a whole different ball game. The game slows down, and Howard is required to anchor the defense. His rim protection is still absolutely elite.
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