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re: When did ESPN start declining?
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:16 pm to Oddibe
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:16 pm to Oddibe
It's not so much that ESPN has declined compared to how society is nowadays. They dominate college football coverage with all the games they carry. I think a lot of people now dislike ESPN because they have bought the rights to almost everything in sports. I used to enjoy watching Wimbledon on nbc on Sunday's. Among other things. Monday night football should be on abc instead of ESPN.
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:18 pm to boXerrumble
Whoever said when PTI debuted is correct. That was the first debate show
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:19 pm to boXerrumble
I blame pti.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:19 pm to dukke v
They do a good enough job with their productions of live events. Their studio shows are trash though. When I was a kid, I used to keep my television on ESPN all day. I couldn't tell you the last time I've watched ESPN for anything other than a game in a long time.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:21 pm to Billy Mays
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ESPN has delved into other entertainment sources, such as things the average "get off my lawn guy" may not like, to maintain viewership in a competitive world of 500 channels and on-demand information.
....and the "get off my lawn" types were all correct for they haven't maintained viewership, proven by the massive amount of cuts at ESPN.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:24 pm to Prominentwon
ESPN is eating it with the live rights fees increase and the cable cutters.(or ESPN-less cable packages). Their live numbers are still thru the roof.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:28 pm to hendersonshands
I watch ESPN once in s while. The debate shows are funny. Steven a and Bayliss do a good job of stirring the pot. Around the horn is a pretty good show IMO. Pti is horrible. Mike and mike is a joke. At least Greenberg is. He has never played a sport in his life and has the nerve to cutdown a pro player???? Sad.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:31 pm to boXerrumble
2010-2011 sounds about right.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:32 pm to LSUBoo
See my post
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:34 pm to boXerrumble
The day twitter, etc. became the source for breaking news.
Also, PTI is great, but I'm 40.
Also, PTI is great, but I'm 40.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:37 pm to boXerrumble
When they cancelled Top 5 Reasons You Can't Blame:
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:39 pm to MontyFranklyn
It never has declined.
ESPN is on top of the sports world 24/7.
ESPN is on top of the sports world 24/7.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:46 pm to JW6
Why do we need 10 different shows discussing the same topics in different ways? I'm currently eating at a BBQ joint and they have "His and Hers" on and Michael Smith is wearing sunglasses while Jamele Hill has some kind of fur on. What the hell.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:48 pm to boXerrumble
Not only when ESPN became politically correct, but when the network decided that it was the sole arbiter of political correctness in the sports world, and society in general.
The tut-tutting of liberalism is off-putting. frick them.
The tut-tutting of liberalism is off-putting. frick them.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:52 pm to JW6
August 14, 1996. The day Tom Mees died.
Really, the problem with ESPN is that it stopped being the underdog, and it became the thing it hated. One of the great things about 80s-90s ESPN is that it really did embrace intelligent analysis of sports. It's not an accident they were publishing Rob Neyer on their website long before "Moneyball" was even a term. They were dedicated to putting on live events, but they also believed in smart and fun analysis.
Something in the late 90s changed, and they started chasing ratings, not smart things. And they intentioanlly dumbed themselves down and started mocking the very things they once championed. Once ESPN became more about the brand than the product, it was all downhill.
ESPN in its heyday wasn't perfect, but it never catered to the lowest common denominator like they do now.
Really, the problem with ESPN is that it stopped being the underdog, and it became the thing it hated. One of the great things about 80s-90s ESPN is that it really did embrace intelligent analysis of sports. It's not an accident they were publishing Rob Neyer on their website long before "Moneyball" was even a term. They were dedicated to putting on live events, but they also believed in smart and fun analysis.
Something in the late 90s changed, and they started chasing ratings, not smart things. And they intentioanlly dumbed themselves down and started mocking the very things they once championed. Once ESPN became more about the brand than the product, it was all downhill.
ESPN in its heyday wasn't perfect, but it never catered to the lowest common denominator like they do now.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 2:57 pm to Paul Allen
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2003
Honestly this probably was the start. This was around the time those low IQ shows like ATH, PTI, First Take, Quite Frankly w/Stephen A Smith, etc. came around. Social Media being introduced a few years later was the death blow
Posted on 10/30/15 at 3:03 pm to boXerrumble
when Skip Bayless and Woody Paige got their First and Ten segment on Cold Pizza.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 3:06 pm to saintsfan22
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quote:
Like when he created 'The Decision'
What?
Months before 'The Decision', Simmons had an article where he brainstormed different ideas for LeBron to choose what he was doing next. The idea he liked best was the same thing as 'The Decision'.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 3:22 pm to CunningLinguist
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ESPN is eating it with the live rights fees increase
This might have been already discussed, but I read that ESPN offered multiples more in the bidding process. (that means two, three, four times more than the closest bid, for you aggies reading).
Whomever decided how much they'd bid on certain properties was WAY off and WAY overspent (insert Longhorn Network joke here).
Posted on 10/30/15 at 3:58 pm to Baloo
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August 14, 1996. The day Tom Mees died.
Came here to post this.
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