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re: Vegas council approves stadium proposal to lure Raiders

Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by Psi296
Las Vegas
Member since Feb 2006
130 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 11:45 pm to
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I don't know much about the town, but how does their population stack up against other cities with NFL franchises??


Las Vegas metro - 2 million

(in millions)
:NYJ :NYG New York 19.0
:CHI Chicago 9.6
:DAL Dallas 6.3
:PHI Philadelphia 5.8
:HOU Houston 5.7
:MIA Miami 5.4
:ATL Atlanta 5.4
:WAS Washington D.C. 5.4
:NE Boston 4.5
:DET Detroit 4.4
:ARI Phoenix 4.3
:SF :OAK San Francisco/Oakland 4.3
:SEA Seattle 3.3
:MIN Minneapolis 3.2
:SD San Diego 3.0
:STL St. Louis 2.8
:TB Tampa Bay 2.7
:BAL Baltimore 2.7
:DEN Denver 2.5
:PIT Pittsburgh 2.4
:CIN Cincinnati 2.2
:CLE Cleveland 2.1
:KC Kansas City 2.0
:IND Indianapolis 1.7
:CAR Charlotte 1.7
:TEN Nashville 1.6
:JAC Jacksonville 1.3
:NO New Orleans 1.1
:BUF Buffalo 1.1
:GB Green Bay 0.3 (112 miles north of Milwaukee 1.5 M)
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8642 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 5:05 am to
quote:

Going to a Raiders game in Vegas would be something I'd start planning if this happens
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40859 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:48 am to
So if the NFL is going to move into the Vegas market, how long before the NBA follows? I say this because the NBA has been very vocal about their reluctance to enter this market because of gambling. If the NFL is successful there, then the NBA has to change their tune right?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119534 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:48 am to
Not gonna happen.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51393 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 9:52 am to
NHL starts play in Las Vegas in 2017. It'll be a good test.

But if the NHL and NFL do well, I'm sure the NBA would want a piece as well.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142507 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 10:20 am to
quote:

200 years from now when the decline of the USA is studied in schools there will be a chapter on things like public financing of sports stadiums sucking away resources that would be better spent elsewhere.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28275 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:15 am to
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I just don't see how Vegas can support a NFL team consistently


I don't know much about the town, but how does their population stack up against other cities with NFL franchises?? Vegas can't have the population of places like LA, Miami, Detroit, etc



Population is probably ok at 2mil. But the problem is such a large portion of the locals being in the service industry meaning they don't work the typical 9 to 5 Monday to Friday. Many of your dealers, hotel managers, hotel clerks, bartenders, waiters, etc... will be working on NFL Sundays. So it will depend a lot on So Cal fans traveling and road team fans.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:19 am to
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The Super Bowl in Vegas would be the most epic of all time.



frick yeah.

Raiders are perfect for Vegas and hotel taxes will pay the $750 million.

That stadium will be used for so much other shite too. Every big sport on Earth will have big events in that thing.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:20 am to
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But the problem is such a large portion of the locals being in the service industry

Would they not benefit from having an additional massive tourist attraction?

Think of all the shite that they will hold in that stadium.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:21 am to
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So if the NFL is going to move into the Vegas market, how long before the NBA follows? I say this because the NBA has been very vocal about their reluctance to enter this market because of gambling. If the NFL is successful there, then the NBA has to change their tune right?



Which team moves there?

I doubt they create a new team.

Sacramento Kings?
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7351 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Which team moves there?

I doubt they create a new team.



I'll be the prick that says it:
A post-Anthony Davis New Orleans Pelicans
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28275 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Which team moves there?

I doubt they create a new team.

Sacramento Kings?


Benson family gets a payday and moves the Pelicans?
Posted by LSUneaux
NOLA
Member since Mar 2014
4495 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:25 am to
Kings??? That makes no sense. They are about to open a new arena. Any NBA team moving will go to Seattle first.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Kings??? That makes no sense. They are about to open a new arena. Any NBA team moving will go to Seattle first.


Kind of my point.

There are no real options IMO.

Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7351 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Benson family gets a payday and moves the Pelicans?


I'll really be a negative a-hole: Tom Benson dies and there's a horrible, prolonged ownership struggle over the Pelicans. Meanwhile, the Pelicans sink to being a bottom feeding franchise and attendance drops off. Oh, and sometime during that time, Anthony Davis leaves New Orleans for Chicago. At the end, someone buys the team and moves them to Vegas. That's my worst case scenario for the future of the franchise.

Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:17 pm to
Any guesses on how many Vegas Council members "transition" to Raiders jobs if the team moves?
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Not that big of a deal and everyone in town make more money because of it



Really, because almost every single study says just the opposite.
This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9613 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

Isn't there a golf course just south of Mandalay Bay?


Yep, it would be dug up. A number of golf courses in Vegas will be gone in the next few years if their property is valuable.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40859 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Which team moves there?

I doubt they create a new team.

Sacramento Kings?


I don't know. Seattle has to be accomidated first one would think.

I thought the Kings were getting a new arena in Sacramento?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

Tom Benson dies and there's a horrible, prolonged ownership struggle over the Pelicans.


I'm sure they'll try, but there won't be much of a fight for the Leblanc side in that struggle.

It's over and Tom protected himself well
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